Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
consumer product reviews
coffee & espresso grinder reviews
Baratza Virtuoso - Yves Feder's Review
Posted: December 10, 2007, 9:39am
review rating: 8.8
feedback: (1) comments | read | write
Baratza Virtuoso Grinder
Where to Buy
Arrow Seattle Coffee Gear
Arrow 1st-line Equipment
Arrow 1st in Coffee
 List your business site here.
About "Where to Buy"

More About This Product
Arrow The Baratza Virtuoso has 62 Reviews
Arrow The Baratza Virtuoso has been rated 7.22 overall by our member reviewers
Arrow This product has been in our review database since February 20, 2006.
Arrow Baratza Virtuoso reviews have been viewed 389,173 times (updated hourly).

Quality Reviews
These are some of the best-written reviews for this product, as judged by our members.
Name Ranking
Eero Simoncelli 9.08
Gone Gone 9.00
Aubrei Merrill 9.00
Joel Bristol 9.00
Yves Feder 8.83

Previous Review Next Review
Ratings and Stats Overall Rating: 9.8
Manufacturer: Baratza Quality: 10
Average Price: $229.00 Usability: 10
Price Paid: $189.00 Cost vs. Value 10
Where Bought: TERROIR COFFEE Aesthetics 9
Owned for: 6 months Overall 10
Writer's Expertise: I love coffee Would Buy Again: Yes
Similar Items Owned:
Bottom Line: A marvelous, rugged, quiet and extremely attractive machine that is miles ahead of its imitators.
Positive Product Points

Quiet Operation
Thoroughly consistent coarse/fine settings
Very attractive design

Negative Product Points

length of time to achieve grind - not serious, but takes longer than most cheaper grinders
timer knob not secured properly to shaft
static electricity cling problem to basket grind container

Detailed Commentary

i'd been watching information on the Baratza Virtuoso grinder for some time and was interested in some of the technical and construction problems observed over time - I was fortunate enough to find out that the machine had been completely redesigned since its introduction, and decided to order one.

The George Howell Coffee Company (Terroir Coffee Co.), of Acton, MA, a dealer,  went to work on some of the problems, and these folks at Howell apparently worked with Baratza to test various versions of the current production 40mm. commercial-grade conical burrs.

Ordering one from Terroir, the machine actually arrived the very next day by UPS! A small discount on the full price was applied (I found out they do this on most of what they sell).

At any rate, my benchmark of comparisons was not the more expensive and top-of-the-line machines purchased by some - :) but rather the more mundane machines many of us with limited budgets have used. In this case,  various blade grinders with their obvious defects - too much heat; creating an unuseable powder slurry, etc.etc. - then "basic" burr grinders like the Capresso, used for some time here. In this latter case, the problems were lack of reproducibility of grind fine/coarse settings, eventually a freezing of the setting control to make it unuseable. Also most grinds would come through with completely mixed results.

So the object here was to try something not terribly expensive, yet with decent, reproduceable results. First, I went to look at other machines made by Baratza: at a certain very large national chain of coffee houses renowned for the "burned" taste to their brews, I noticed various grinders on sale; they sure looked very much like the "Virtuoso" but the similarity ended there. Very cheap, plasticky construction, and who knows what in the way of burr assembly construction! Talking with two friends who had actually bought these relatively inexpensive units, I decided to steer clear.

So the Baratza Virtuoso from Messrs. George Howell/Terroir Coffee Co. arrived here; after unpacking and setting up the Virtuoso, and then feeding it some of Howell's "La Minita" fresh beans, I was amazed first to notice how quiet the unit was compared to others tried here. Then, I had to get used to a longer grinding time: the design of this machine takes care not to elevate grinding temperatures which could have a deleterious effect on the grind; one way to do this is with slower burr RPM's, so that flavor is not "bruised" by the mechanical process. OK - now to the result.
The grind consistency was/is amazing. And this has remained absolutely consistent after six months of very heavy use. Regardless of the settings (I tend to favor more coarse settings, for use with my TechniVorm brewer) the result has proven totally reliable.  The settings are calibrated from 0 to beyond 30, and I find the adjustments stays put with almost continuous use.

Some have noticed some clogging with "oily" beans. I have not noticed this although most all of what I get, the various beans, from Terroir do not have that oily surface. Various beans from other roasters do sometimes have that problem.

I was also advised by Terroir that a fix is under way to have the knobs replaced (on the grind timer side control) so new machines will have a new knob, and we older customers will get free replacement knobs.

With respect to the static "cling" of the bean and bean shell residue, this isn't really very offputting - I'm able to take the empty container over to the sink, rap it smartly with my hand, and have most of the residue just fall out. What's left inside can be wiped out with a couple of fingers, no biggie. Same for the small amount of residue that may fall into the container compartment. Incidentally the machine comes with a small brush to clear the innards if one does experience clogging, which I never have.

All told I expect a long service life for this fine little machine. It complements my TechniVorm quite nicely :)

Buying Experience

Superb customer service from Mesrs. Terroir - both online and by phone. I'm especially impressed by all the technical information and helpful hints that Terroir makes available, either in person, by phone, or on their website. A very old fashioned approach to customer service, somewhat rare in this day and age of mass consumerism. Highly recommend.

Previous Review Next Review
Write a Review for this Product
review rating: 8.8
Posted: December 10, 2007, 9:39am
feedback: (1) comments | read | write
Login Password
forgot pw | signup
Commercial Equipment
Nuova Simonelli, La Marzocco, Rancilio. Nationwide installation. Instant financing options.
Home Espresso Machines
Watch videos with Gail & Kat, Rocket, Jura Capresso, Saeco, Rancilio, Quick Mill, Nespresso
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2015 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.198683023453)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+