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Johnboy63
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Location: Whitburn near Newcastle UK
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Posted Sun Nov 24, 2013, 9:41am
Subject: Gaggia carrezza
 

Hello fellow coffee lovers,
I'm sure this is the most commonly asked question on the forums, but why should I be any different than the rest !
I love my coffee, got into it a couple of years ago when my wife bought me a Barista taster course.  I have been using a basic DeLonghi machine, which produces espresso and froths milk but doesn't steam milk very well.  My wife has bought me a Gaggia carrezza and I would like the opinion of other coffee lovers with regards to a good machine to buy, have been considering the Rancilio de silva, but the Gaggia looks better.  Advice would good before I open the box on Xmas day and make my first brew.  I would probably like to spend around 300 to 350, the Gaggia cost 280, this is probably a machine I will want to stick with for a good few years and especially want to buy something that will produce a nice milk texture, as well as a good crema. Also using a Bosch grinder which seems pretty good unless I'm told otherwise as I know the grind is equally important.

Many thanks for any advice received.
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Sun Nov 24, 2013, 2:06pm
Subject: Re: Gaggia carrezza
 

Welcome to CG.  

The new Gaggia Carezza for 2013 sounds Similar to a New Baby Twin if it has the thermoblock as it sounds, a New Baby if not.  They leak and the Twin has thermoblock and "board" problems.  The package may look a lot nicer, if it is like those, it is not a great machine.  I think it has a thermoblock plus boiler as I saw "simultaneous brew" noted.

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/627321

No mention of a 3 way solenoid or adjustable OPV and those are both desirable.  

I would get the Classic, or consider another brand based on knowledgeable reviews in espresso forums.  Price and availability vary by location and I am not sure what is a good buy in the Classic range in your area.

The Classic is a classic for a reason :)

 
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Johnboy63
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 9:57am
Subject: Re: Gaggia carrezza
 

Hi D4F
Thanks for your reply.  Treat me as a newbie to the use of coffee terminology, I don't know what a 3 way solenoid or OPV is!  Excuse my ignorance, this is why I want to benefit from other members mistakes and good experiences to allow me to end up with a coffee machine I will have pleasure owning and using.  Just a little more info regarding needs: only really make one or two or cups a day, really want to master milk texture and a good crema. But machine needs to look good in kitchen too.

Again many thanks to all for your thoughts
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 8:22pm
Subject: Re: Gaggia carrezza
 

Johnboy63 Said:

But machine needs to look good in kitchen too.

Posted November 25, 2013 link

My wife allows the stainless Gaggia Classic on the counter :)

Johnboy63 Said:

I don't know what a 3 way solenoid or OPV is!  

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3 Way explained

http://www.frcndigital.com/coffee/3way/intro.html

OPV or Over Pressure Valve is a way to adjust brew pressure.  Normal accepted value is 9 bar and most Gaggias come with 11 - 12 bar adjusted down from the "15 bar pump."  the higher pressure is to allow pressurized baskets and force fake crema.

If you buy a Gaggia, get the Classic :)

 
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http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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Johnboy63
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Posted Sun Jan 19, 2014, 3:09pm
Subject: Re: Gaggia carrezza
 

Hi all
Thought I would give a update to my post.  After un boxing my Gaggia carezza on Xmas day pretty quickly I discovered it wasn't the machine for me.  Looked great on the bench, however struggled to produce a good crema, designed so that you were not meant to tamp down coffee in basket, I guess as soon as I realised this it wasn't going to be right for me.  Anyway, I am now the proud owner of a shiny new Rancilio de silva v3.  I hope I have made a good choice.  After a couple of days playing with my grind setting I have managed to produce a crema, however no where near as good as I had hoped for.  Using a krups burr grinder , do I need to replace this also ? If spend anymore money on coffee gear my wife will leave me !
Any starter advice from other silva owners would be helpful

Regards

John F

D4F Said:

My wife allows the stainless Gaggia Classic on the counter :)



3 Way explained

http://www.frcndigital.com/coffee/3way/intro.html

OPV or Over Pressure Valve is a way to adjust brew pressure.  Normal accepted value is 9 bar and most Gaggias come with 11 - 12 bar adjusted down from the "15 bar pump."  the higher pressure is to allow pressurized baskets and force fake crema.

If you buy a Gaggia, get the Classic :)

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