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jabraham
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Joined: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 21
Location: Calgary
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso
Drip: Melitta pour over
Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 5:40pm
Subject: Place for machines in Calgary
 

I wouldn't mind buying an espresso machine in person in Calgary, but most stores only sell the cheaper machines.

Here's what I've found for retailers of better machines:

Cappuccino King on Edmonton Trail (everyone seems to like them, but they have a pretty limited selection of machines last I checked)
Kilian in Kensington, just a few hand chosen machines last I looked
Orange Works Kitchen in North Hill mall (never been there, just found it on the Internet, might go tomorrow)
National Cappuccino never been there, there web page seems dated, looks more B2B than retail
Mr Cappuccino is B2B but might still have some retail. I've heard a few stories in person and online suggesting they should be avoided, but they are old stories so maybe not relevant anymore.

For online machine sales from Canada I've got idrinkcoffee.com, creativecoffee.ca, and espressoplanet.com, are there any other important ones?
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jabraham
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Location: Calgary
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso
Drip: Melitta pour over
Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 9:56pm
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

And Fratello
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ddubick
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Joined: 1 May 2012
Posts: 150
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Nuova Simonelli Appia 1Gr
Grinder: OE Pharos, Macap M5, Nuova...
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 4:26pm
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

I've ordered many items from espressotec.com as well.
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qualin
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qualin
Joined: 30 Jun 2012
Posts: 669
Location: Calgary, AB
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A
Vac Pot: Looking to buy
Drip: Manual
Roaster: Considering?
Posted Thu Nov 7, 2013, 2:25am
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

jabraham Said:

I wouldn't mind buying an espresso machine in person in Calgary,

Posted October 5, 2013 link

If Edmonton is an option, Caffetech has an excellent selection. They sell everything that Chris's coffee sells.

Cappuccino King sells a decent selection of Italian machines. Mainly Izzo, Nuova Simonelli, Rancilio, Jura and Elektra. It's a very well laid out boutique espresso equipment shop.
I go there for all of my accessories. If there is something you can think of that goes with an espresso machine, they'll have it.

Never went to Kilian, but I'll have to check it out.

Phil and Sebastians has a very limited selection of espresso machines.. Mainly just the Rancilio Silvia, although I'm sure that they could get something else in.
I'd go there more for the accessories. I think I recall they did sell some Baratza grinders as well as some unrelated Bonavita drip stuff.

The only machines I've seen Fratello sell is the Breville Double Boiler. I buy my coffee from them because they know how to roast. :-)

Orangeworks has a decent selection of machines.. Rancilio, Expobar and the Breville DB. They have a good selection of Baratza and Compak grinders, nobody else in Calgary sells those.
They also have an excellent accessories selection. Keep in mind, since they are the first espresso equipment supplier in Alberta to be located in a mall, you can't expect a huge showroom! :)
They also sell massive amounts of kitchen equipment and accessories along with coffee stuff. Kudos to the owner for trying something new. I hope they stay around for a long time.

National Cappuccino is where you go if you want to buy Wega or La Marzocco machines. The owner there is a big LM fanatic and loves those machines. I've never really been there myself,
but I would like to check the place out sometime. I'd walk in there with the expectation that it's primarily meant for commercial businesses only and not for prosumers.

Mr. Cappuccino has a very limited selection of machines for the prosumer. They sell Magister and Rancilio. They also sell some Mazzer stuff there as well. I saw an Ascaso machine there on
display but they didn't have any for sale when I went there. Strangely enough, they also sell other food service equipment, like mixers, paninni presses, etc.

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So, coming back to it all... (Bit of a rant here.)

I think in some ways, espresso machines suffer from vacuum cleaner syndrome. IE. You pay outrageous amounts of cash for very basic technology, mainly because the demand isn't there.
(I still can't figure out how someone who sells a machine with a motor, a fan, a bag, a case and a hose can charge $3000 for it.)

All I can say is that if you are planning on buying from a Calgary vendor, make sure you can price match against vendors outside of Calgary. Also, be sure that you compare features closely
and don't buy the first shiny thing you see. :-)

At the risk of getting sued for libel, I won't say anything negative about the Calgarian vendors above, but what I will say is that my own espresso equipment purchasing experiences have
been somewhat frustrating and difficult, especially when I had to walk out the door empty handed because they simply couldn't compete. Maybe that's changed in the last two years.

 
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canussie
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Posted Mon Nov 3, 2014, 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

Does anyone know where I can buy the Crossland CC1 in calgary? I would rather buy local than online...
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defleshed
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Posted Mon Nov 3, 2014, 7:57pm
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

canussie Said:

Does anyone know where I can buy the Crossland CC1 in calgary? I would rather buy local than online...

Posted November 3, 2014 link

I think i saw a crossland machine at National Cappuccino last time i was there, but you might want to call ahead in case i was mistaken.
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qualin
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qualin
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A
Vac Pot: Looking to buy
Drip: Manual
Roaster: Considering?
Posted Tue Nov 4, 2014, 6:12pm
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

As an update to my previous dorky sounding post... :-)

qualin Said:

Phil and Sebastians has a very limited selection of espresso machines.. Mainly just the Rancilio Silvia,

Posted November 7, 2013 link

Last time I checked, this was still true. Although, I did notice they were also selling the Baratza grinders as well.

qualin Said:

Orangeworks has a decent selection of machines.. Rancilio, Expobar and the Breville DB. They have a good selection of Baratza and Compak grinders, nobody else in Calgary sells those.

Posted November 7, 2013 link

I should clarify that.. to the best of my knowledge, I do know that National Cappuccino sells Compak grinders as well and there are a few places which sell Barazta grinders now, like Orangeworks. Last time I checked though, I didn't see the Breville DB selling there anymore.

qualin Said:

National Cappuccino is where you go if you want to buy Wega or La Marzocco machines.

Posted November 7, 2013 link

Still the choice for La Marzocco, I have to admit that it's the only place I know where I could buy a tricked out GS/3 with a Strada group on it. I shudder to think of what it would cost, but they know their machines. I don't know if they sell Wega anymore though, I didn't see any of them in the showroom when I went there last.

qualin Said:

I'd walk in there with the expectation that it's primarily meant for commercial businesses only and not for prosumers.

Posted November 7, 2013 link

I think I'd like to retract that statement. The last time I went in there, I seem to recall seeing a Crossland machine in there. They're getting better at accommodating everyone now.  

qualin Said:

Mr. Cappuccino has a very limited selection of machines for the prosumer.

Posted November 7, 2013 link

I think I can probably disqualify this statement. It's been too long since I've been in their shop last and would have to take another peek. In all honesty, they stuck me as being a boutique shop with a limited selection. I'm not sure if this is still the case.

qualin Said:

espresso machines suffer from vacuum cleaner syndrome.

Posted November 7, 2013 link

Since I made this post, I think that this is slowly going away. There are a lot of shops out there now selling equipment at fairly competitive prices and the prices are coming down a bit for the consumer and low to mid end prosumer. It's nice to see that there are many more options out there than there used to be.

qualin Said:

...if you are planning on buying from a Calgary vendor, make sure you can price match against vendors outside of Calgary.

Posted November 7, 2013 link



I still stand by this statement. However, in saying that, if the price is off by less than $200, please buy local! If the price is off by $1000, go somewhere else. Speak with your wallet and they'll listen. More to the point, if you really want to piss them off, show them online pricing from someone who does and ask why the same machine is $500-$1000 more in their shop. :-)

qualin Said:

I will say is that my own espresso equipment purchasing experiences have been somewhat frustrating and difficult,

Posted November 7, 2013 link



I should clarify this. I won't name vendors, but at the time I was looking at buying my machine, some of the vendors here were nearly $1000 over the price of other vendors outside of Calgary for the same exact machine. Other vendors were selling their own in-house equipment, which was roughly $500-$1000 more than comparable machines in the same market. I really hope this has changed.

I don't mind paying a bit more for a machine if I know I'm going to get quality service and support for that machine by that vendor. I also don't mind if they cut me a bit of a deal by charging more for a machine and charging me less on the accessories which come with it, or perhaps offering free installation on a water purification system.. that makes it worth it and then some.

What I have a big problem with is charging downright obscene margins on what I would consider lesser equipment and not really getting any extra added value with it. Again, I won't name names but just keep this in mind when you are purchasing.

Again, in saying this, perhaps things have changed in the last two years and maybe it's not so bad now. The market is changing quickly and maybe perhaps the owners of these shops have had a big eye opener.

 
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canussie
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Location: Calgary
Expertise: I love coffee

Posted Wed Nov 5, 2014, 8:03am
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

thanks for that. I contacted them and they do have the crossland cc1, however its the 1.0 not the 1.5 ;). I have asked them if they can get the 1.5 in, still waiting for a response.
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canussie
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Location: Calgary
Expertise: I love coffee

Posted Wed Nov 5, 2014, 8:04am
Subject: Re: Place for machines in Calgary
 

Yeah, I would go local if it was a matter of 100 - 200 bucks. Its less hassle and I like promoting local business. Will update how I go price wise for the crossland cc1 local v outside of calgary.
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