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DUFFY
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Location: IPSWICH,ENGLAND
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: RANCILIO S20 MIDI
Grinder: RENEKA ROSSI
Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:37am
Subject: Crema
 

Ive purchased a, can i say the name? being a newbie, of my machine anyway its a french made machine im really happy with the taste of the coffee it makes but i read and hear that italian machines make a better coffee ive looked at these machines and the coffee or shot (still new to this) is so thick when it pours out ive never had the pleasure of tasting one from these machines,Mines almost like coke-cola but it tastes as good as certain coffee shops, My grinder is the same make and i use the tamper on it but when i watch people on youtube they really press the grinds in does this make any difference? can i get a custard type shot from my machine? Any advice Please!!!!!!!!
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Ian
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Ian
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Posts: 1,484
Location: England

Espresso: Euro2000,Rancilio
Grinder: Mazzer,La Cimbali
Vac Pot: Cona-->CraigA
Drip: Belgique for emergencies
Roaster: Primas with variac
Posted Wed Dec 18, 2013, 1:45am
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What beans are you using and do you know when they were roasted?

You can list your equipment in your profile, like this




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DUFFY
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Location: IPSWICH,ENGLAND
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Espresso: RANCILIO S20 MIDI
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Posted Wed Dec 18, 2013, 9:06am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

Thanks Ian.Supermarket bought, Taylors brand beans they have a taste i quite like these are the second choice as i tried a different brand before but found the taste abit  too mild and these have a much stronger coffee taste,any suggestions on beans would be great.
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DanoM
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 8:07am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

It's all about the beans first.  Take a look around and find locally fresh roasted beans or a mail order source.  I assume that Ipswitch is the UK location and not the USA location, so I don't know any mail order roasters on that side of the Atlantic from personal experience.

If beans aren't within 10 days from roast you'll find it very hard to get that lovely crema we enjoy.  Also shoot for medium roasts, and nothing that says Italian roast, Espresso roast, French roast or many other names we use here in the USA to denote over-roasted coffee.  (My opinion on the over roasting there.)  Meduim light to medium dark range all do well in espresso.

Also look especially at vendors that sell a bean specifically for espresso, usually some kind of blend.  Roasting for French press is quite different from roasting for espresso, and the same coffee sometimes doesn't work well for both methods.

Enjoy the journey!
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CMIN
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Location: South FL
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:15am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

DUFFY Said:

Thanks Ian.Supermarket bought, Taylors brand beans they have a taste i quite like these are the second choice as i tried a different brand before but found the taste abit  too mild and these have a much stronger coffee taste,any suggestions on beans would be great.

Posted December 18, 2013 link

Don't buy anything at a supermarket, beans are already stale and have generally been in a warehouse for months by the time their on the shelf. You need to find some fresh roasted beans, if the bags in a store say "best by xxx" or "use by xxxx" run lol. Fresh roasted can be at a roaster if any are around your area, good coffee shops that carry constantly fresh bags (not crap Charbucks or similar), or ordered online.

Get a good tamper too, Precision Tamper maker on Ebay makes top notch tampers that are affordable. Precision Tamper Maker . The built in tampers on machines and grinders are useless.

Machine itself looks like a sturdy commercial machine from what I saw online, make sure your giving it a good warmup time, at least an hour before use to make sure it's temp stable. Grinder looks like the RR45 which I think there are a few variations/rebadged grinders... don't know much about it but others will as I've seen it mentioned on here before.

Looking up your area there's Plum Island Coffee Roasters in Newburyport, and I've ordered from Barrington in Boston before. Tons of roasters online. They'll roast and ship right to your house.
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Ian
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Espresso: Euro2000,Rancilio
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Vac Pot: Cona-->CraigA
Drip: Belgique for emergencies
Roaster: Primas with variac
Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:17am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

You really need to get some freshly roasted beans.

Try somewhere like hasbean, squaremile or suchlike - I can't vouch for their quality as I roast my own but the chaps at TMC should be able to give you a few pointers. www.toomuchcoffee.com



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Ian

 
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CMIN
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:45am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

Ian Said:

You really need to get some freshly roasted beans.

Try somewhere like hasbean, squaremile or suchlike - I can't vouch for their quality as I roast my own but the chaps at TMC should be able to give you a few pointers. www.toomuchcoffee.com



Cheers

Ian

Posted December 19, 2013 link

I was thinking Ipswich in MA, haha not sure where he lives but guess there's an Ipswich in  UK too. Was like why would be order beans from the UK, oh may be from the UK and not States lol
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DUFFY
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Location: IPSWICH,ENGLAND
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: RANCILIO S20 MIDI
Grinder: RENEKA ROSSI
Posted Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:06am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

Hi All again.Many thanks to those who replied to my post with advice on coffee beans,I shall buy no more supermarket beans and try and find some fresh beans and also purchase a tamper which was suggested by a fellow coffee lover in the USA i know you love your coffee over there as i spent 2years working for my cousin had some goodtimes in Ft lauderdale and working up west palm beach is ames still going over there? Loved r donuts 2 if you have been there you will know what i mean!!! dont half miss browns chicken best chicken ive ever had  also taco bell,wendys,bobby robenos might have spelt that wrong as this was  between 1985- 1987 goodtimes have one regret should have gone to see mr jackson when he played at the dolphins football stadium my loss but it was raining that night but no excuse i know,to all those i met a big howdy and "have a nice day"Merry crimbo everyone.forgot to add coffee and donuts what a combination.And if my cousin is a member is that coffee machine still going? it was on 24-7 !!!!!
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z0mbie
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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 9:14am
Subject: Re: Crema
 

Ditto on fresh beans.  Is probably the biggest factor in producing crema.   But let's not put to much emphasis on it.  It's way overrated in the coffee world.  And frankly now that I've had a few God shots since when I started,  I can say undoubtedly that all-crema God shots as mythical as unicorns.   In my experience all-crema shots are all form and no substance.  They are usually pretty bad because the beans are straight out of the roaster.
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