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CoffeeCaine
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Location: Uk
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 1:28pm
Subject: New to Forum...Hello from the UK
 

Hello All

Just thought I'd introduce myself.

Although I've always liked coffee although I've only been into coffee in a serious way for about 12 months.

I'm currently using a Gaggia Classic and a Eureka Mignon. My coffee has improved massively since getting the grinder and also since I started weighing input of the grind weight as well as the shot output. I've found I've got better results using this rather than by volume.

I'm looking to upgrade next year to something like a used Mazzer Super Jolly and a HX machine seems the next logical step. Which to do first I'm not sure. Upgrade grinder or machine?
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Ian
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Ian
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,448
Location: England

Espresso: Euro2000,Rancilio
Grinder: Mazzer,La Cimbali
Vac Pot: Cona-->CraigA
Drip: Belgique for emergencies
Roaster: Primas with variac
Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 2:28am
Subject: Re: New to Forum...Hello from the UK
 

Welcome to the forum.

The Gaggia Classic is more than capable of producing decent shots so, although not familiar with the Eureka, I would spend money on a grinder and then get used to using the equipment.  There are usually a few commercial type grinders on ebay but it might take a while for one to come up at the right price.

Not referring to you, but so many these days seem to over-compensate by spending loads on exotic gear instead of learning the craft of making espresso. What you've got there should keep you entertained for a while.

Importantly, what beans are you using?

I predict you'll be looking into home roasting in the near future ;)



Cheers

Ian

 
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CoffeeCaine
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Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 1:46pm
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Thanks Ian

The Classic is a great machine to learn on and I've added the Silvia steam wand to replace the standard one. The only thing I do find a pain is it does have a temperature swing on it being a small single boiler.

The Mignon is an excellent compact grinder, it has great grind consistency but it can be a bit clumpy. So I end up having to do WDT for every shot.

I'm tempted to upgrade the grinder first as the clumping annoys me more than the temp surf routine;)

Bean wise I use freshly roasted beans that have rested for about a week from their roast date. In the UK there are a growing number of online roasters that will send beans out as requested or offer a monthly subscription service. I tend to buy a Kg at a time as it works out cheaper for shipping. Although I'm finding I'm getting through about a Kilo and a half in a month:D
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SJM
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Espresso: SAMA, Gaggia Classic
Grinder: K-10PB, Rancilio MD-50
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Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 1:49pm
Subject: Re: New to Forum...Hello from the UK
 

CoffeeCaine Said:

Thanks Ian

The Classic is a great machine to learn on and I've added the Silvia steam wand to replace the standard one. The only thing I do find a pain is it does have a temperature swing on it being a small single boiler.

The Mignon is an excellent compact grinder, it has great grind consistency but it can be a bit clumpy. So I end up having to do WDT for every shot.

I'm tempted to upgrade the grinder first as the clumping annoys me more than the temp surf routine;)

Bean wise I use freshly roasted beans that have rested for about a week from their roast date. In the UK there are a growing number of online roasters that will send beans out as requested or offer a monthly subscription service. I tend to buy a Kg at a time as it works out cheaper for shipping. Although I'm finding I'm getting through about a Kilo and a half in a month:D

Posted December 28, 2013 link

Given your issues, have you considered adding a PID?
Seems to me that expenditure would go a very long way towards improving your satisfaction with the Classic.

Susan
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CoffeeCaine
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Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 1:51pm
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Sorry forgot to say I am interested in Home roasting but the coffee making takes up enough of my life at the moment :) I'm obsessive enough about that already without adding the roasting element :D
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
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Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 1:59pm
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You can go a long way with the Gaggia.  You have already done the wand.  How about the OPV adjust to 9 bar, and as mentioned the PID controller?  That will help stability while you upgrade the grinder.  You can mostly fix the temperature instability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sluei1-IkTw

 
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http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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CoffeeCaine
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Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 2:05pm
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SJM Said:

Given your issues, have you considered adding a PID?
Seems to me that expenditure would go a very long way towards improving your satisfaction with the Classic.

Susan

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Thanks for the suggestion Susan.

I have briefly looked into adding a PID. From what I've read the cheaper PIDs don't give particularly good results and the ones that do give good results cost in at about 180, which I'd rather put towards a new machine. Are there any PIDs you'd recommend?
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SJM
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Espresso: SAMA, Gaggia Classic
Grinder: K-10PB, Rancilio MD-50
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Drip: no like
Roaster: HotTop
Posted Sat Dec 28, 2013, 2:09pm
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You should ask D4F about PID's.
Mine is old and out of date and no longer available, but he has information on what is more currently available.

When I added mine I bought a kit which cost more than one would cost now because I felt inadequate to the job of doing it myself, but even at the high price I did not regret it a bit.  It took so much of the uncertainty out of the process.
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CoffeeCaine
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Posted Sun Dec 29, 2013, 4:15am
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D4F Said:

You can go a long way with the Gaggia.  You have already done the wand.  How about the OPV adjust to 9 bar, and as mentioned the PID controller?  That will help stability while you upgrade the grinder.  You can mostly fix the temperature instability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sluei1-IkTw

Posted December 28, 2013 link

Thanks for the reply, yes I've already done the OPV mod. I might have another look at PIDs and see what they cost in at. :)
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