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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 8:00am
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I have to side with Len here. If G-d didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat? Conversely, if G-d wanted us to eat bugs/insects, why didn't he make them out of meat?

I can't think of any guy I know that isn't attracted to building fires, explosions, etc, and the only ones I know who don't eat meat withhold because of religious reasons or because they've conditioned themselves to "live healthy". Heck even the hardcore Jews and Muslims have loopholes allowing them to eat "special" (Kosher and Halal Kosher) meat.  

Ask any dentist, paleontologist or evolutionary biologist about the reasons our teeth are structured the way they are...they are designed for both tearing and mashing.  Homo sapien sapiens are omnivores by nature - not "condition".

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They say the crickets cheek meat is the tenderist and most flavorful.

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LOL!, yep just like cod cheeks too!! (& tongues). {;-)

 
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 8:08am
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LOL!, yep just like cod cheeks too!! (& tongues). {;-)

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I hear it tastes like chicken.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 9:34am
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Lobster (and other crustaceans) are just big bugs, and we eat them. Crawfish are smaller bugs, and we eat them—heck, they're frequently referred to as "mudbugs." I've chowed down on pan-fried chile-lime crickets and they are mighty tasty.

Man evolved to be an omnivore—i.e. to eat pretty much anything. So we do. Heck, we even dry out the fruit of shrubs, scrape off the fruit, burn the seeds, crush them, steep them in water and drink them.
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Lobster (and other crustaceans) are just big bugs, and we eat them. Crawfish are smaller bugs, and we eat them—heck, they're frequently referred to as "mudbugs." I've chowed down on pan-fried chile-lime crickets and they are mighty tasty.

Man evolved to be an omnivore—i.e. to eat pretty much anything. So we do. Heck, we even dry out the fruit of shrubs, scrape off the fruit, burn the seeds, crush them, steep them in water and drink them.

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George, so to flip this you are saying that cockroaches, ticks, and other bugs are just small crustaceans?

So should I just boil the little buggers (do they scream also when boiled??), dip in melted butter, and make a meal out of them?  Should I wear a lobster bib to avoid mussing my shirt?  Do they make teeny tiny nutcrackers to crack open the leg and tail regions?  Are there even claws??

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George, so to flip this you are saying that cockroaches, ticks, and other bugs are just small crustaceans?

So should I just boil the little buggers (do they scream also when boiled??), dip in melted butter, and make a meal out of them?  Should I wear a lobster bib to avoid mussing my shirt?  Do they make teeny tiny nutcrackers to crack open the leg and tail regions?  Are there even claws??

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Stir-frying is the preferred method for preparing cockroaches (a Thai delicacy). Bugs much smaller are not worth the preparation time and energy. Takes too many of 'em to make a serving.

As to your first point, crustaceans are a sub-phylum of arthropods, and most of that family are insects. Not all bugs are insects (if it's got an exoskeleton, it's arthropoda insecta), but many are, and the larger ones have been food for homo sapiens for a long, long time. Odds are that your distant ancestors ate way more bugs than beef.
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GVDub Said:

Stir-frying is the preferred method for preparing cockroaches (a Thai delicacy). Bugs much smaller are not worth the preparation time and energy. Takes too many of 'em to make a serving.

As to your first point, crustaceans are a sub-phylum of arthropods, and most of that family are insects. Not all bugs are insects (if it's got an exoskeleton, it's arthropoda insecta), but many are, and the larger ones have been food for homo sapiens for a long, long time. Odds are that your distant ancestors ate way more bugs than beef.

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Unfortunately there apparently are not enough people of Thai ancestry living in New York City.  But enough of that.  You go eat your bugs, George, and I'll have my rib eye medium rare. Bon Appétit.

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You wouldn't need too many of these guys, the Hissing Madacasgar cockroach to make a meal lol! :D

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Unfortunately there apparently are not enough people of Thai ancestry living in New York City.  But enough of that.  You go eat your bugs, George, and I'll have my rib eye medium rare. Bon Appétit.

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And why does one exclude the other? Protein is protein, after all.

Rib eye medium rare is okay, but it's boring as hell. We go locally and get puerco, which are tacos with a filling of carnitas and trompa (that would be shredded fried pork and braised pork snouts) chopped together, or lengua (beef or pork tongue) tacos served on freshly made tortillas with a variety of fresh-made salsas. Or I'll smoke a pork shoulder or three and make Carolina-style pulled pork. Or we hit the local live poultry shop for chicken, duck, goose, or rabbit. Or we get some fresh fish, octopus, or calamari from a local fish monger. Even the occasional bugs (usually crab, lobster or crawdads, though popcorn grubs are tasty, too).

And, of course, freshly roasted, ground and properly prepared coffee.
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GVDub Said:

And why does one exclude the other? Protein is protein, after all.

Rib eye medium rare is okay, but it's boring as hell. We go locally and get puerco, which are tacos with a filling of carnitas and trompa (that would be shredded fried pork and braised pork snouts) chopped together, or lengua (beef or pork tongue) tacos served on freshly made tortillas with a variety of fresh-made salsas. Or I'll smoke a pork shoulder or three and make Carolina-style pulled pork. Or we hit the local live poultry shop for chicken, duck, goose, or rabbit. Or we get some fresh fish, octopus, or calamari from a local fish monger. Even the occasional bugs (usually crab, lobster or crawdads, though popcorn grubs are tasty, too).

And, of course, freshly roasted, ground and properly prepared coffee.

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Everything but the bugs, calamari, and octopus sounds good to me.  My definition of bugs, not yours.

Let's move on to the next controversial food subject:  Brains.

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