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Alonzo
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Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:17am
Subject: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

Hi
Sorry for the stupid question but it's first time for me to put the machine for sale here. I've searched here but the only post I could find is the one posted 6 years ago.
I have a few people asking the shipping cost but I don't know how to figure it out exactly. Should I just look at the UPS or Fedex website or is there any better way?
Also how do people receive and pay the cost of the price+shipping? The only thing I can think is the Paypal. Other than that, don't know what else choice I would have.
Moderator please move this to the right place if here is not the right place.

Thanks in advance.
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Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:19pm
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

Hello, the post is fine here.

To get shipping cost,,  look at your item, add at least an inch of packing all around and see what size box you need. If the box is not the exact size you guessed, (nearly never is) get the next larger size box. Make sure you have enough packing material. Peanuts or air bags WILL NOT WORK for heavy items, you need hard foam, this can be purchased at a big box home improvement store, it is sold as insulation.

Take the size of the box, weigh the total shipping weight, box, packing and item.

Go to shipper website, enter box size, weight, starting zip code and end zip code. Decide if you want to insure package (I advise you do)

Take the total shipping cost from webiste, add in the cost of the box, add in the cost of the packing, add in the cost of 1 full roll of packing tape.

If you charge anything to pack, that is up to you. The total is your shipping cost.

When shipping something heavy like a grinder. PACK THE BOX TIGHTLY, SO TIGHT YOU HAVE TO FORCE THE BOX CLOSED, POSSIBLY WITH THE HELP OF SOMEONE You must pack every teny tiney void, solid, leave no room unstuffed, make sure the item CAN NOT MOVE!

When taping box wrap tape all the way around the box, at least 3 wraps, over the ends of the box flaps.

Make 3 wraps 90 deg to the first set of wraps around the the center of the box.

Make 3 wraps around each end of the box.

Make 3 wraps around each side of the box

Make 3 wraps around the sides of the box at the top

Make 3 wraps around the sides of the box at the bottom.

If you add it up you will have gone around the box 18 times and ALL corners will have tape around all 3 sides of each corner and around the center of the box both directions.

NO IT IS NOT OVERKILL, if the package is to survive the trip and the item is to get there unharmed, that is what you must do. This will consume nearly all of your roll of packing tape. Remember if there is a way to damage your shipment, they will find it, you must pack it so they give up on your box and move on to damage someone elses box!!

Now that is for an item like a grinder. If you were to ship something like a prosumer machine you do need to do more. You will need a wooden box for anything of weight, at least the floor of a box. All loose items must be removed and packed like the above example. Water must be drained from the machine. All loose items like cup rails, removeable drip tray covers etc should be taped down with blue painter tape and of course everything packed like the grinder example.

DO NOT just walk into a pack and ship place, tell them to pack it, pay and leave. They will put it in a way too big box, throw some peanuts in the box and send it on it's way. This is a recipe for disaster and you WILL be using the insurance if you thought to pay for it. Then you will be arguing with the shipper for 6 months until they pay half if anything at all for the damage. YMMV!

 
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calblacksmith
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Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:34pm
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

OOPS, payment.
That is between you and the buyer. Whatever you two work out. Some like Paypal, others dont. Some like bank checks or postal money orders or personal checks.
With checks, make sure they clear before shipment. That is pretty standard practice.

 
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Wayne P.
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Alonzo
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Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 2:26pm
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

Thanks a lot for your detailed information. I was scared with your reply in the beginning but I just thought differently and it's my responsibility for a buyer. :)
I appreciate.
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javajr
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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 9:58am
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

That's fantastic advice, just out of curiosity does this information exist someplace else in the forum (ie. in buy and sell)?

I was looking through there and I didn't see anything about suggested packaging and shipping, and it would definitely be helpful to the newbies like myself!
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calblacksmith
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calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 6:33am
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

I am not aware of it being any place else, this is how I pack to ship and I have never had a problem though even when packed like above, I have had packages get to the other end with splits in the box due to abuse in shipment. The item shipped was OK but the box was only good to recycle.

 
In real life, my name is
Wayne P.
Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
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N_West
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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2013, 9:51am
Subject: Re: Payment and shipping method in buy, sell and trade forum
 

I was just going to post the same question so thanks Alonzo for beating me to it!
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