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Posted Thu Jun 12, 2014, 3:22pm
Subject: SOLD: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

This came as a package with an espresso machine, but I have plenty of other grinders and have no use for it.  It's in excellent shape and has only seen a light about of home use.  It's missing the doser lid, catch tray, hopper diffuser, and one of the plastic vent covers.  The lid is $15 should you want to replace it, and I don't know how much the vent cover is as it's more or less extraneous in a home setting.  This is the continuously adjustable version with the worm gearing adjustment mechanism in the back.  It's roughly comparable to a Mazzer Mini, but with what I think is a better doser and adjustment.

I'd lover to get this sold locally here in LA, but I can ship it for about $30 cost to the buyer.

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Asking / Suggested Price: 250
Seller Name: Russel Philip
Seller Location: Los Angeles
Sale Type: For Sale


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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 3:52pm
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Aw man I so want to buy this! As soon as my gaggia classic and baratza virtuoso sell I will contact you! Unless you sell it before then lol. Good luck selling it either way!

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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 4:01pm
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Wondering how this would pair with a la pavoni?
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 4:36pm
Subject: Re: FS: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

Barry,
I have a stepped M4 that works just fine with a Pavoni. The stepped takes a little fiddling with tamp and dose but I am sure this stepless will be better. This is a dosered model so be prepared.

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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 5:48pm
Subject: Re: FS: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

Thanks for the comment, Bill.  Really just trying to pull together a small footprint, quietish, low cost, espresso machine and grinder pairing, that will allow mw to learn to pull great shots.  Pretty settled on a used La Pavoni;  this grinder/price caught my eye.  Wife does like milk based drinks; whole family enjoys a good cup of drip, french press or pourover.  cant maximise everything at once, though, so focusing on espresso first.  As an aside, will soon be home roasting in my convection oven, so that should provide lots of fuel for the fire.
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 9:03pm
Subject: Re: FS: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

Hi Barry and anyone else following this.

I'm way deeper down the rabbit hole of espresso equipment, so please forgive me if it seems that I'm taking the care with which you are approaching your first setup lightly...but frankly a $250 Macap M4 or Mazzer Mini from a reputable source (that would be me) with a history of only domestic use is a no-brainer.  You put your $300 down on the table, learn to pull shots, and then sell the thing for $300 if/when you want something bigger/faster/more quiet/timer-ed/dosserless/etc.  It is literally that simple.  There's a lot of talk and discussion about specifications and metrics, but nothing comes close to hands on experience.  Maybe you like dosers, maybe not.  Maybe single dosing works for you, maybe not.  You don't really know until you've tried.

As per your specific situation, I think an LP Pro and this M4 would make an excellent starter setup.  I'm 40+ espresso machines in and I still have an LP Pro that I love like a dear friend.  LP Pros are keepers.  I view the M4 and other 5Xmm mini commercial grinders as good starter grinders when purchased used for about $300 all in.  They're a bit too slow and a bit too loud when compared to their larger and more expensive regular and heavy duty commercial brethren.  But they don't cost $1000+ used/$2000 new.  Putting $300 into something low risk, capable, reliable, and that is done depreciating is a good place to start.

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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:09pm
Subject: Re: FS: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

russel Said:

Hi Barry and anyone else following this.

I'm way deeper down the rabbit hole of espresso equipment, so please forgive me if it seems that I'm taking the care with which you are approaching your first setup lightly...but frankly a $250 Macap M4 or Mazzer Mini from a reputable source (that would be me) with a history of only domestic use is a no-brainer.  You put your $300 down on the table, learn to pull shots, and then sell the thing for $300 if/when you want something bigger/faster/more quiet/timer-ed/dosserless/etc.  It is literally that simple.  There's a lot of talk and discussion about specifications and metrics, but nothing comes close to hands on experience.  Maybe you like dosers, maybe not.  Maybe single dosing works for you, maybe not.  You don't really know until you've tried.

As per your specific situation, I think an LP Pro and this M4 would make an excellent starter setup.  I'm 40+ espresso machines in and I still have an LP Pro that I love like a dear friend.  LP Pros are keepers.  I view the M4 and other 5Xmm mini commercial grinders as good starter grinders when purchased used for about $300 all in.  They're a bit too slow and a bit too loud when compared to their larger and more expensive regular and heavy duty commercial brethren.  But they don't cost $1000+ used/$2000 new.  Putting $300 into something low risk, capable, reliable, and that is done depreciating is a good place to start.

email me if your're interested

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+1 some of the best advise.
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Posted Sun Jun 15, 2014, 6:47am
Subject: Re: FS: Macap M4 - worm gear adjustment, doser, black, minimal home use
 

russel Said:

Hi Barry and anyone else following this.

I'm way deeper down the rabbit hole of espresso equipment, so please forgive me if it seems that I'm taking the care with which you are approaching your first setup lightly...but frankly a $250 Macap M4 or Mazzer Mini from a reputable source (that would be me) with a history of only domestic use is a no-brainer.  You put your $300 down on the table, learn to pull shots, and then sell the thing for $300 if/when you want something bigger/faster/more quiet/timer-ed/dosserless/etc.  It is literally that simple.  There's a lot of talk and discussion about specifications and metrics, but nothing comes close to hands on experience.  Maybe you like dosers, maybe not.  Maybe single dosing works for you, maybe not.  You don't really know until you've tried.

As per your specific situation, I think an LP Pro and this M4 would make an excellent starter setup.  I'm 40+ espresso machines in and I still have an LP Pro that I love like a dear friend.  LP Pros are keepers.  I view the M4 and other 5Xmm mini commercial grinders as good starter grinders when purchased used for about $300 all in.  They're a bit too slow and a bit too loud when compared to their larger and more expensive regular and heavy duty commercial brethren.  But they don't cost $1000+ used/$2000 new.  Putting $300 into something low risk, capable, reliable, and that is done depreciating is a good place to start.

email me if your're interested

Posted June 14, 2014 link

I also agree...and not just because I have a spare M4 laying around.  The only thing I'd say different is that it's a bit quieter than my Mazzer Major.



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Fidelm Said:

Aw man I so want to buy this! As soon as my gaggia classic and baratza virtuoso sell I will contact you! Unless you sell it before then lol. Good luck selling it either way!

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I have a friend who's planning on taking my "homeless" M4 (the same model as above) for a test drive, but it may become available in a month or two. I have all the parts, though I broke the hopper bean disperser taking it out.  I also removed the finger guard from the doser (intact, as it's just screwed on), and I still have it...and the worthless plastic tamper one can screw onto the side of the doser.  Minor surface scratches, no real damage...burrs (whole grinder in fact) are only 2 1/2 years old (maybe 40-50#). I bought it brand new from CCS. Anyone interested should pm me, and I can send you the disposition of it's fate when I know.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:31am
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