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murphem
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Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 5:44pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

Ah yes, sorry about that! I'm looking specifically for an espresso grinder (I also use my moka pot, but I've found the Hario is fine for that) for use in a single-boiler with a non-pressurized portafilter. My machine is basically a refurbished 80s version of this (long story): Click here (www.lecafecreme.ca).

Thanks again for all of the advice folks! Definitely have me rethinking my strategy. I was under the impression that the Virtuoso was going to give me more range for espresso, but I will definitely pass on that if it's going to present the same problems as the Encore. Luckily, the Hario certainly works for now and I'm quite patient…

After speaking to one of my colleagues who has a OE Pharos, I would definitely consider a used Pharos as well, but I doubt those are easy to come by up here in the Great White North.

Unfortunately I don't know anyone in Toronto, but it does appear the OP at home-barista will ship, but I can't find much about the Elektra grinder, nor does the OP have much info on it…
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CMIN
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 6:57pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

murphem Said:

Ah yes, sorry about that! I'm looking specifically for an espresso grinder (I also use my moka pot, but I've found the Hario is fine for that) for use in a single-boiler with a non-pressurized portafilter. My machine is basically a refurbished 80s version of this (long story): Click here (www.lecafecreme.ca).

Thanks again for all of the advice folks! Definitely have me rethinking my strategy. I was under the impression that the Virtuoso was going to give me more range for espresso, but I will definitely pass on that if it's going to present the same problems as the Encore. Luckily, the Hario certainly works for now and I'm quite patient…

After speaking to one of my colleagues who has a OE Pharos, I would definitely consider a used Pharos as well, but I doubt those are easy to come by up here in the Great White North.

Unfortunately I don't know anyone in Toronto, but it does appear the OP at home-barista will ship, but I can't find much about the Elektra grinder, nor does the OP have much info on it…

Posted August 5, 2013 link

Looks like a cool little machine, but do you know if it's a pressurized portafilter, or a regular portafilter (huge difference there). It says 15 bar pump which is what all the low end pressurized pf machines here in the states brag about.... however yours has a copper boiler, actual steam arm, and looks like they go for a nice chunk of $ which makes me doubt it's a pressurized pf.

Yeh a used Pharos is like a needle in a haystack, maybe one or two a year go up for sale lol. How far do you think you can stretch your budget? I mean worst case, your Hario can be modded to be stepless and use that for now while you save up. I'm not sure what a Baratza Preciso goes for up there or how it works as far as shipping cost from Baratza directly, but they put new refurbs for products up every Thursday. You have the OE Lido as well, those Le'Lits which though not much info on few things you can read online are fairly positive. If you don't mind hand grinding though, your best option would pry be getting a new Pharos from OE... that burr set will stomp on any of the grinders mentioned in here for taste in cup.

If your really stuck at $200 or less for a grinder, I'd say your best off modding the Hario to be stepless, and save up money till you can afford a nice grinder. Here's the stepless mod and you could message Burner0000 for any questions http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/grinders/608220]Steppless Hario
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beerANDmathematics
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Espresso: La Peppina, Sama Export,...
Grinder: OE Pharos+VDD, Virtuoso,...
Vac Pot: no vac, but got turkish...
Drip: hario woodneck, aeropress,...
Roaster: popcorn popper
Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 7:12pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

Now, that we know it is espresso only--definitely save your coin and buy a used or a new Pharos. I bought a used Pharos for 200 because I was impatient. In retrospect, I wish I just saved up for a new one (only 45 bucks difference). I also use my Pharos for all necessary grinds (except for turkish, although some report it goes fine enough). But having used the Hario mini for a few weeks while I waited for my Pharos to get modded I understand the desire to upgrade. Good luck!
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phasor
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Espresso: New Baby
Grinder: Pharos, LIDO
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: French Press
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Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 7:16pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

Hi Eric,

I know you said your budget is $200, but I just wanted to let you know that my OE Pharos came in at $284 Canadian, including shipping (this was 2 years ago, and exchange rates have changed, but not a ton) all the way to Halifax from Idaho.  I can't comment on electric grinders, as I've never owned one, but I can say that grinding with my Pharos is much easier than grinding with my Zass knee mill.  It's also much better in terms of taste and consistency too.  There is definitely some holding-hand strength required for the Pharos (especially with lighter roasts)...my wife can't turn the thing, but I personally don't see a better value out there than a Pharos.  Mine is un-modified, by the way, and I'm pretty happy with it (I'd like stainless steel bolt covers, though...).  Anyway, just my two bits.

P.S. I have read that the PL53 is a good little grinder (stepless, pretty nice grind, etc).  DrGary (a member here, and on home-barista) had one for a while and was quite happy with it.

Best of luck with whatever you end up getting.
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CMIN
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 7:27pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

I agree, if the Pharos is out budget wise and can't stretch for it right now, mod the Hario to be stepless like the link I posted. And save up for the Pharos (if you don't mind hand grinding). You'll be extremely pleased, your talking about a grinder that grinds along the lines of a K10, or Robur etc... but at a fraction of the price. I snagged a deal initially on my Preciso I couldn't pass up but was considering the Vario or a new Pharos, I grind a lot so the Pharos was out. If I was only doing like 2 shots a day, I would have done the Pharos easily. But when we have friends/fam over everyones always wanting to have some "real" coffee vs Charbucks lol. Thinking about an HG One though as when it's just the woman and myself we single dose.
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murphem
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Posted Tue Aug 6, 2013, 6:49pm
Subject: Re: WTB: "starter" espresso grinder for $200 or less (Canada)
 

Thanks one again everyone for helping the new guy out! The Pharos does look very tempting and I highly prefer to purchase from a small business like OE, but I'm not too sure I can stretch my budget that far—at least for now. I think I'm going to try and be patient to see if any decent electrics come around and if I don't find anything for awhile, I'll spend that (hopefully) saved up cash on a new Pharos. Cheers all!
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