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onetime
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Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 5:15pm
Subject: wtb good grinder for beginner
 

Hi
I by dumb luck bought a ASTRA machine, wanted to sell it first, but now after I had teh machine repaired I want to keep it.
But if you have a Espresso machine, you do need a good grinder.

So if you have a good grinder that doesnt cost a fortune and has a portioner build in, please offer. I have the cash, I can do paypal or pickup if its somewhere around Phila

Thx

KARSTEN

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Asking / Suggested Price: 300
Seller Name: KARSTEN H
Seller Location: WEST CHESTER PA
Sale Type: Wanted to Buy
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IMAWriter
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Location: Brentwood, TN
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 8:27pm
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Karstan, there are several grinders on this BST forum for you to consider, if you're willing to spend just a bit more.

Off this forum, $200 would get you a Virtuosos with Preciso burrs, for instance.
Even a used Rocky would do you fine for a while. It can do excellent shots, but needs some DIY mods.

 
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Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 8:57pm
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Hi

Thanks, yup, I could go up a bit, not a biggie.If you know of any good grinder, pls let me know.
I found in another forum a link for a new Ascaso I-2d for 271$ delieverd. Does that sound like a good deal?
I didnt really see a lot of machines. I seen JVBorallas and send him her a mail, no reply yet.

My original idea was I will sell the Astra and get a smaller machine. I got this one in a weird way. Had a small issue, mind you a 15y old brand new never used
machine :-)  sounds like a 50 year old virgin. So I took her to a repair place and she is clean shiny and everything is absolutely ok.

My main trouble is, she is simply to big for a household of 2. Well for the time being she will be ok....I guess. Now I only need a good grinder.

Karsten
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Location: Brentwood, TN
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 9:06pm
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I have a friend here who has an Astra Pro. It's a great machine, American built.
I assume you must have the Gourmet? If so, It is a VERY good machine, a keeper for life pretty much.
Their service dept seems pretty good, as I have spoken with them.

For $271, or less you can get a "refurb" Baratza Preciso grinder. It doesn't "portion", as you call it but will grind fine per single dose filling. Or, just get a $29 scale, and weigh the beans, or the grind. It wastes nearly no grind. Same warranty as new.
The big advantage is that it is also an awesome choice for Pour-over and French Press.

I've not used the Ascaso, but I assume it is a fine grinder. The Baratza line is backed by top of the heap customer service. None better.

 
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Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 9:16pm
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thanks so much, yes its a gourmet, but that thing is really extreme big. I really was lucky, that beast came wrapped in the shipping foil like ex factory.
Never used....paid 180 for a full check and cleaning.....there was a valve that needed to be changed...I know about their service, i spoke to Richard, the only problem I had was finding a service in se PA...that wasnt easy and their database was very off.....one of they guys wanted 300 just to look at it....damnit...

But I managed at the end.

So about the refurb, I need a "easy" to use thing. The wife needs to be able to use it without scales and loads of playing around, thats why I wanted a doser.

I got an offer from someone here, 300$ delieverd for a Eureka MDM ...problem is I do not really find a lot of info, and no idea if it is a doser....
do you know this one?
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Espresso: Conti Princess 2grp, GS/3...
Grinder: Super Caimanos x2, Forte BG,...
Drip: V60, Kalita Wave, Clever,...
Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:11pm
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That was me, and basic info is here:

Click Here (nuovasimonelliusa.com)
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Location: Brentwood, TN
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:34pm
Subject: Re: wtb good grinder for beginner
 

The Preciso is blood simple and 1/2  the size of the MDM. Cleaning takes less than 2 minutes. Do it once every month or so. I do more often, as I vary the grind a lot.
Whichever, you are spot on assessing your need for a proper and good espresso grinder!












EDIT: you are aware you need a 20 amp circuit, as that baby is 2000 watts?
Also, is yours an auto (with shot timer buttons) or semi-auto?

 
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Posted Fri Jul 27, 2012, 5:11am
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I think she is even more then 2k w...2.4 i think but it doesnt matter. I only have 2 butons on. I can not tell you for sure if she is an auto but I belive she is a semi only.
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Posted Sat Jul 28, 2012, 8:02pm
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Hi Rob,


I have a question regarding site policy. I know I am not allowed to sell my machine here because it bought it more or less commercially, tough I wasnt aware that I bought it. Nevermind. So here my situation. Today I had my electrician over, and I got a low blow. I would have to exchange my whole switch box if I want to install the machine at my house. All over 700$...thats a bit to much....

Now. when I first got the machine, I asked here if I am allowed to offer it for sale, and have been turned down because I was deemed a dealer, which I am not, I did not expect to find the machine. Now, with this final kick in the balls, I am really lost.No way I can explain to my wife that I have to spend 1000 bucks extra, she is going to go crazy on me. I did list the machine on Ebay and some interesst sparked but I have another idea, a trade. I am absolutely sure some of the guys here may be interested in a exchange. Like someone who has outgrown his machine and is ready going pro and wants to do an exchange with me.

I just dont dare to list my Astra yet without asking for permission here.

What do you say as a Mod? Is it ok if i offer a trade?

Thanks

Karsten
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012, 8:29am
Subject: Re: wtb good grinder for beginner
 

Karsten,
Unless your home is very old, it should not be a big deal to run a 220 v line.
Even if your breaker box is full, you can get double breakers that fit in one breaker space, thus freeing up space in the box. Perhaps the BEST thing is to upgrade the box but unless the box is all double breakers in a single space, right now, I find it hard to understand the result of the electricians visit.

A lot of homes have 100 amp panels and should be upgraded anyway to 200 amp as I had to do to my panel several years ago, It is perfectly fine and is the norm to have more breakers in the box than the rating of the panel. It is not uncommon to have 150 amps worth of breakers in a 100 amp box as not all lines will be running at max, all the time. This is accounted for in the electrical code.

Do you have a 220v line you are not using? A lot of homes have an outlet for a dryer and it is not needed as the home owner is using a gas dryer (if you are using an electric dryer and have the gas hookup, how would the wife like a new dryer???? :D) An unused circuit may also be going to the home water heater or for an electric cook top  in the kitchen that is not used.

 
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