Posted Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:25am Subject: SOLD - La Cimbali Junior DT1 (M21) For Sale
2008 La Cimbali Junior up for sale.
The good - This rotary pump machine has less than 3 years of use and is excellent mechanical condition. It spent its entire life being fed water from a dual-stage filtration system and has never had more than 5 grains of hardness water fed into it. 6 months ago I pulled out the heating element to get a great look into the boiler out of curiosity and was amazed how little scale it had, which really should be expected given the condition of the water. Machine has a new boiler gasket and grouphead gasket, both original Cimbali gaskets, not inferior knock-offs. Comes with water filtration system, two portafilters, single and two double baskets.
The bad - While the previous owner had it in storage for a year something rubbed on the left side of the machine, scratching the lower rim. Chris Coffee will sell a replacement for $156 should you decide that you want to replace it. Depending on how you install it, it may not be visible. The drip tray had a crack on the inside that is not very visible when installed but has been repaired and has not leaked since the repair a year ago.
Common questions: - What is the difference between this and the Junior Casa Chris Coffee sells. First, this is the exact machine Chris sold before he ordered a lot of new machines with a few changes incorporated. This one has the faster tip, and despite his claims of being easier to steam milk, I'd have to disagree. This machine is a VERY fast steamer! If you use a routine more in-line with a smaller boiler machine you will have a hard time. There is no need to stretch at all on anything under 5 ounces; simply insert the tip below the surface of the milk, open the valve, and 10 seconds later you have perfect microfoam. It's seriously fast but can be throttled down by plugging the center hole with a toothpick if you desire, or you can buy the new "Casa" tip from Chris. Second, this machine does not have built-in pre-infusion. If you want pre-infusion, you can start and stop the flow for ~2 seconds to saturate the puck before just pushing the dosing button of your choice; same result. Third, boiler pressure only gauge. Once you set line pressure you will rarely, if ever re-adjust it. If you want, this machine can be retrofitted with the new gauge by ordering the parts from Chris. Last, this is half the price of a new one. With the money you save you can buy a new Compak K10!!
- Can it only be plumbed in? No, you can plumb it in or run it off a bottle.
- Why are you selling it? I went from being a home owner to a renter and will be moving every one to two years for the next 8 years, at least. While I can set this up on a coffee bar with a bottle sitting next to it, I'd prefer to just use my Olympia Cremina. Trust me when I say that if I was a home owner still, this machine would not be for sale.
- Will you ship it? Yes, but I'd much prefer to sell it locally. This thing is HEAVY, even with the boiler drained. I'll ship it, but the buyer will have to cover the shipping costs. **EDIT** Shipping via FedEx should be just under $100. If it's over that, I'll cover the difference.
TomChips Senior Member Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 70 Location: San Francisco Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Alex Duetto II Grinder: K30 Vario/Mazzer Super Jolly Drip: Tecnivorm Mochamaster-Hario Roaster: Behmoor 1600+ Freshroast
Posted Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:45pm Subject: Re: La Cimbali Junior DT1 (M21) For Sale
Tempting... This is my ideal pump machine, even if I have to drill a hole in my rented apartments countertop in order to plumb it in. I've been eyeing one for a long time to perhaps replace the Duetto.
Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012, 2:38pm Subject: Re: La Cimbali Junior DT1 (M21) For Sale
I don't know uscfroadie (Merle Richard) except to see his name in the forum. I would like to comment on the La Cimbal DT1 in general. I have gone through a lot of machines (Alex Duetto, GS3, Speedster, Cremina and now a Faema Legend) in the past several years and bought a new one from a La Cimbali dealer. Mine did not have the pre-infusion and didn't need it. What hit the cup from day one was consistently one the best I have ever owned. It was flawless in operation and the quality of the materials is second to none. I love the machine that I have now but the DT-1 for the money is, in my opinion, is one of the best in the market below $5000. I have never talked to any owner of the DT-1 that didn't feel the same. I am confident that whoever buys it will understand this in a very short time.
rezz Senior Member Joined: 17 Aug 2011 Posts: 90 Location: Dallas Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: La Cimbali Junior, Expobar... Grinder: Mazzer Major, Kitchenaid... Vac Pot: Why? Drip: Really? Roaster: Hot Top, Gene Cafe
Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012, 2:54pm Subject: Re: La Cimbali Junior DT1 (M21) For Sale
I also wanted to throw in that I own a Cimbali M21 (2004 model with rotary pump and plumb in). I've gone through the kitchenaid machine, barista machine, Salvatore Famosa, Vivaldi, and Expobar Brewtus IV. The Cimbali is by far the best I've ever used, and highly recommend it. You CANNOT go wrong with it. Quality is top notch, and it consistently makes the best espresso I've ever tasted. Mine is paired with a Mazzer Major, but I also tried it with a Baratza Vario, and it was almost as good (If I have to choose again, I would have just gotten the Vario instead of the Major).
Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 6:18am Subject: Re: La Cimbali Junior DT1 (M21) For Sale
A lot of you asked about shipping. Looking at FedEx's site, it looks to be under $100 depending on location. If they charge over $100, I'll cover the difference. I will only charge you what they charge me. Also, if you want to use some other shipper, I'm open to that, too.
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