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Posted Tue Jun 5, 2012, 6:21am
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Peli Said:

Still looking!  I'm willing to stretch my budget if the machine is right.

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In my HO, your budget is why you are not finding a machine. A late model machine in good working order, costs more than that, your budget is in the range of older equipment or equipment needing repairs or both.

Take your time, look on Craigslist etc, check out the throwaway add news papers that are direct mail to you, check out the recycler paper etc. and you will eventually find a machine in your range.... possibly needing repair.

A HX machine is not really much different than a SBDU machine when it comes to repair, a few different components but these things are not going to the moon, they are just coffee makers after all.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 6, 2012, 6:59pm
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I've found that the biggest barrier to finding 'the right machine' lies not in the price, but rather size and the lack of internal tank.  Strangely enough, the bigger, plumb-in machines are coming in cheaper than home friendly models.

At this point, I'm really ogling a Cimbali Junior.   It seems as though I may have to save and wait to reach that one.
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Posted Thu Jun 7, 2012, 7:23am
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Peli Said:

I've found that the biggest barrier to finding 'the right machine' lies not in the price, but rather size and the lack of internal tank.  Strangely enough, the bigger, plumb-in machines are coming in cheaper than home friendly models.

At this point, I'm really ogling a Cimbali Junior.   It seems as though I may have to save and wait to reach that one.

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Saving for a better machine is a good idea if you're prone to upgraditis :-)
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Posted Fri Jun 8, 2012, 6:50am
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Peli Said:

I've found that the biggest barrier to finding 'the right machine' lies not in the price, but rather size and the lack of internal tank.  Strangely enough, the bigger, plumb-in machines are coming in cheaper than home friendly models.

At this point, I'm really ogling a Cimbali Junior.   It seems as though I may have to save and wait to reach that one.

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How is this strange?
The home market is MUCH larger than the commercial used equipment market, thus smaller machines are in higher demand ergo, they cost more.

There are many advantages of plumb in, even at home. You need not tie into the home water/drain system. Many here use stand alone water bottles and a water pump to supply the machine and like me, you can drain into the same kind of bottle.

My 4 gal waste bottle lasts about a month between mandatory dumping. A little bleach (teaspoons worth) keeps the water from getting funky over the month.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 6:00pm
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I've increased my budget!  Original post edited to reflect this.
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Posted Sun Jun 17, 2012, 1:12am
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Though still looking, I'm closing in on a particular machine next week.  Last call for potential sellers!

Edward
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Posted Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:32am
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I've been lazy about posting it, but I have a Expobar Office Control I'm looking to sell, good condition, includes Eric's thermometer and external temperature display ( an auber PID being used solely to display temp).  After I stopped using it (2 months ago) I gave it a thorough cleaning so its ready to go, no built up gunk anywhere.  It has been well taken care of and recently replaced the thermostat with a new one.  Let me know if that sounds interesting and i'll stop being lazy and get you a more thorough description and photos, looking to get $500 for it.  (fyi, stopped using it because I picked up a Izzo Duetto :) )
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Posted Tue Jun 19, 2012, 7:07pm
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Are you considering a used Nuovo Simonelli Oscar? These are fantastic HX machines, pull fantastic shots, they last forever and they steam milk like crazy. I actually consider the Oscar quite a bit above an "entry level" HX machine.

Just thought I'd mention it, as a used one would be well within your budget and a solid performer.
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Posted Tue Jun 19, 2012, 9:03pm
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I do agree with your evaluation of the Oscar as above entry level ... but I like brew/boiler pressures gauges, and would really prefer an E61 grouphead.   I'd like all the feedback and forgiveness I can get.

It's an amazing HX machine! I've gotten to use it before, and it's certainly a helluva steamer.
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Posted Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:49pm
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I think that's a wrap!  I've sent payment on a gorgeous machine, and at a price I'm satisfied with.  I appreciate all the help I've gotten along the way.
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