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parkerto
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parkerto
Joined: 18 Aug 2011
Posts: 23
Location: Amarillo, TX
Expertise: I love coffee

Grinder: Hario Mini Mill
Vac Pot: Aeropress
Drip: French Press
Posted Wed Nov 16, 2011, 3:35pm
Subject: Grinder for under $300
 

I am interested in buying a grinder for under $300.  I want it to be a great grinder like a Mazzer, Macap, Compak, or anything on the level.  I understand that I will need to go used and would be interested in making the purchase if the right piece of equipment comes along.  Let me know, thanks:)

Listing Details
Asking / Suggested Price: 300
Seller Name: Todd Parker
Seller Location: Amarillo, TX
Sale Type: Wanted to Buy
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drgary
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Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 144
Location: San Francisco
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Baby Lusso Caravel Coffex...
Grinder: Pharos, Rio Super Jolly,...
Vac Pot: AeroPress
Drip: Melitta
Roaster: Heat Gun/Bread Machine,...
Posted Wed Nov 16, 2011, 11:45pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

Todd,

If you're willing to go manual, you can get a grinder at that performance level, the Orphan Espresso Pharos. These are said to produce the grind quality of the biggest Mazzer that's the gold standard, the Robur. They are less than your budget, brand new. For an electric grinder, if you're grinding espresso only, I'm very happy with my Le'Lit PL53. It's smaller than a Mazzer, louder, slower, the coffee grinds fall to the left, and the chute is a PITA to clean, but it easily produces the same grind quality as my Mazzer Super Jolly and is capable of precision fine tuning. They're stainless steel and hefty build quality. I grind into a steel cup and spoon the grounds into my portafilter. These are also lower than your budget, brand new. Even after naming the shortcomings of the Le'Lit, I'm delighted with the delicious shots I make pairing it with my La Pavoni Europiccola and Olympia Express Coffex espresso machines.

Gary
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drgary
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Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 144
Location: San Francisco
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Baby Lusso Caravel Coffex...
Grinder: Pharos, Rio Super Jolly,...
Vac Pot: AeroPress
Drip: Melitta
Roaster: Heat Gun/Bread Machine,...
Posted Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:19pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

A new Pharos just arrived last night from Santa's workshop somewhere in Idaho! This thing is big and hefty and says "quality" in every way. Here it is next to my Super Jolly and my recent pre-Millennium Europicolla acquisition. People tell me the SJ is going to get neglected ...

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parkerto
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parkerto
Joined: 18 Aug 2011
Posts: 23
Location: Amarillo, TX
Expertise: I love coffee

Grinder: Hario Mini Mill
Vac Pot: Aeropress
Drip: French Press
Posted Thu Dec 22, 2011, 7:49am
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

Dr Gary, thank you!  This is such a timely post.  The OE Pharos has become my front runner and I was about to pull the trigger.  So if you were me and looking for a sub $300 grinder are you telling me that going with the OE Pharos is what you would do and it wont disappoint?  What I would give to find a lever machine like the Europicola on the cheap as well, been looking at those for months!  Nice setup:)  Thanks for your help and your advice!
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drgary
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Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 144
Location: San Francisco
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Baby Lusso Caravel Coffex...
Grinder: Pharos, Rio Super Jolly,...
Vac Pot: AeroPress
Drip: Melitta
Roaster: Heat Gun/Bread Machine,...
Posted Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:07pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

I haven't tried it yet (I will tomorrow,) but the look and feel and heft of this thing is unbelievable. Doug's video shows him grinding for espresso in 30 seconds. Sherman at HB led a grinder shootout and compared the Pharos to a Robur and found them to be the same quality. The burrs in the Pharos are the same as in the Compak K10. Put it this way. If you buy a Pharos and don't like it, sell it in the BST forum here for a little less than the amazingly cheap $245 price at OE. What's the risk? Here, let me tempt you!

Keep your eyes peeled on Craigslist for a used Pavoni. Pre or post-Millennium are fine. The post 2K is much easier to use. The pre-2K is a steaming demon but requires more expert technique. You should be able to find one, especially in the winter months, for $300 or less. Be patient. Keep looking.
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drgary
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Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 144
Location: San Francisco
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Baby Lusso Caravel Coffex...
Grinder: Pharos, Rio Super Jolly,...
Vac Pot: AeroPress
Drip: Melitta
Roaster: Heat Gun/Bread Machine,...
Posted Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:35pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

Todd, in case you need to be tempted any more, I've just tried the Pharos with my Isomac Amica and then my -2K Pavoni EP. After dialing it in for the Amica, the first shot tried on the Pavoni was the best one I've ever pulled on that machine. Here's the full write-up (and look for the follow-up a couple of posts later). The Pharos leaves the Super Jolly in its dust because the Pharos has almost no fines, the grind is that precise!
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parkerto
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parkerto
Joined: 18 Aug 2011
Posts: 23
Location: Amarillo, TX
Expertise: I love coffee

Grinder: Hario Mini Mill
Vac Pot: Aeropress
Drip: French Press
Posted Sun Dec 25, 2011, 9:27am
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

yeah, this is pretty much everything I have heard, you have helped me make my final choice. 30 seconds manual for that kind of grind at $245 and knowing how OE supports it's product and the forums...no brainer!  Thanks Gary, getting one early January.  for a while I will be just using it on Aeropress, French Press, and poor over until I replace the espresso machine that went boiler burnout:(  That is the reason for trying to find a nice lever on the cheap.  If you run into any on Craig's willing to ship for the right price keep me in mind.

Take care, todd
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robwain
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Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 108
Location: greenfield, mass
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: isomac tea;gaggia classic,
Grinder: amfin;rocky doser,
Roaster: behmor;i-roar
Posted Sun Dec 25, 2011, 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

hi dr. gary
very interested to hear your thoughts about the pharos in a week or two.
obsessing between the baratza preciso, the le lit and the pharos.  i admit that the pharos has me intrigued, but am concerned that it may not be as consistent as the baratza or the le lit.  i would rather have 5 really good pulls ( the baratza and the le lit) then 4 mediocre pulls and one exceptional (the pharos).  what would be awesome is 4 really good pulls and one exceptional (the pharos)
i hope the above is clear
thanks
rob
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hankua
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hankua
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
Posts: 270
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Salvatore One Black
Grinder: Major, Rossi, Tanzenia,...
Drip: Behmor Brazen, CCD
Roaster: Feima 800n
Posted Mon Dec 26, 2011, 5:31am
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

Hi! You should have no problem finding a used commercial grinder in your price range, just takes some patience. They come up on eBay for 150-200 on a regular basis and the BST right here on CG. Even the Rossi RR45 with the 80 pin adjustment dial will do fine (I have the doserless version). Mine was @200 and they go for less than 100 from time to time. 1st Line might have a 64mm burr grinder as well if you give them a call.
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nbmac
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Joined: 23 May 2013
Posts: 22
Location: Boston
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Andreja Premium, Cremina
Grinder: VPharos, Lido2
Posted Thu May 23, 2013, 9:43am
Subject: Re: Grinder for under $300
 

+1 for the pharos.
I got a new one a few weeks ago, and I'm really enjoying it, even without the voodoo mods.
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