They are both full-immersion coffee makers. That means that the ground coffee sits in a bath of hot water and soaks for a period of time determined by the user. The Aeropress forces water through the coffee under pressure, but uses a paper filter which removes particulates. The coffee is quite good but not espresso. The Espro is like a press pot but the fine screens remove all the sediment but unlike the Aeropress it leaves the oils in the coffee and, IMO, delivers a fuller flavor and more body than the aeropress. Neither are espresso. Espresso is espresso. If you are adding flavors and syrups and other condiments to the coffee, it really doesn't matter much. The benefit of the Espro is larger capacity and vacuum insulated stainless vessel. If both were sitting on a counter, I would grab the Espro every time.
Beyond that, all other thoughts I am having would come across as rude, so....
Grimsthorpe Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 25 Location: Surrey Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 8:53pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? Please help!
I am just a newbie here, but in my limited exposure to espresso machines, you can find some really good opportunities on Craigslist. The options seem pretty endless, and daunting, but it is a bit of a process and this forum and the august members are a fount of really amazing information. I have not managed to make an incredible cup of coffee off an inexpensive (single boiler) machine, but many others clearly have. Although, it usually involves tweaking the machine. But, what I can do consistently with an inexpensive ($45) used machine is make a cup of hot espresso well beyond the capabilities of Starbucks and most coffee houses. So do not give up hope. The grinder, and it really should be a burr grinder, is a tougher go. I can find great used grinders, but you mostly seem to have to be prepared for something in and around $300. It seems backward to pay more for the grinder than the brewing machine, but without a nice precise grind, you really are going to struggle to produce a consistently good coffee. Anyway, I am new here myself. I hope you find some good information here, I certainly have. Enjoy the journey. One final thought: freshly roasted coffee will produce much nicer much more drinkable coffee. Pre-ground coffee, generally, will not. Good luck.
Posted Mon Apr 7, 2014, 7:20pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? Please help!
Anyway, I am new here myself. I hope you find some good information here, I certainly have. Enjoy the journey. One final thought: freshly roasted coffee will produce much nicer much more drinkable coffee. Pre-ground coffee, generally, will not. Good luck.
yeah, but it's a chore to sift through the innumerable ads selling crappy steam toys and the like. I think a patient person who has an idea what he/she wants to buy is much better off watching the BST forums on coffee-based sites (like here and H-B). The main advantage to buying through CL is you can go look at the machine before you actually hand over your money...but it takes a lot more patience.
. Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
Dear ses90, I am glad to see that you are still around. Please allow me to offer an apology to you for treating your sincere efforts to enrich your enjoyment of coffee in such a callous manner. It is nice to hear that you were only slightly offended.
and yes I honestly had no idea I was so completely clueless.
I was unable to distinguish your stuttering mis-steps from the profile of a scam-perp but that is no excuse for being rude to you.
If it is of any irony to you, I fit the profile of a perpetrator myself, big time. On one trip I had closely packed my checked luggage, to the extent that I packed my cell phone charger and other small stuff inside my empty metal bullet-thermos. I was arrested at Logan airport for trying to test the limits of their security surveillance. It seems that cylindrical metal objects with wires inside are highly suspicious on x-ray. After searching my carry on very well (but not me, thankfully), they released me with a warning.
So I know how it feels to 'fit the profile' and I am sorry I 'profiled' you.
To OP: FWIW, the accusatory posts from Buckley were far from his usual highly respectful posts, where he tends to use many pleasantries...in fact, many more than just about everyone else here. I'm glad to see you don't scare off easy and are still participating.
z0mbie Senior Member Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 392 Location: Online Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Tue Apr 8, 2014, 7:29pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? Please help!
This thread reminds me of a time while I was in college, I was invited to a party and was asked at that party what my favorite beer was.. I answered honestly and said "Corona", given that was really the only beer I had an real experience drinking. I did genuinely enjoy Corona because it was easy to drink with the lime and salt. The owner of the house (an older hippy looking guy) went to his kitchen and brought me a few bottles of his beer to try. Needless to say it was an unforgettable experience. Had he not done that I probably would have continued filling my poor belly up with watery college swill. He could have easily laughed and brushed me off as a college punk and just go on his way. Instead he opened my eyes and introduced me to a world I never new existed. I will never forget "that old dude at that one awesome party". haha. yeah.. I was a punk.. But today, a full-fledge lover of Belgian ales :)
I hope that Sarah will come away from this forum with a similar experience...with coffee, of course :)
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