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boar_d_laze
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Posted Thu Apr 3, 2014, 4:16pm
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TheRealScubaSteve Said:

I have not been on CG for long, but I have seen a handful of people leave because of responses to their "stupid" questions.

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Yes, and it's a shame.

I lurked for quite a while before posting my own newbie questions.

Good thing you stayed, you enrich the conversation.  I hope I do too.

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Posted Thu Apr 3, 2014, 6:03pm
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I do what I can - I'm still mostly clueless so my advice is limited! You give a lot of helpful and detailed advice, as do many others here.

There are certainly some cases where people have left after being ridiculed, but I think for the most part people who respond are trying to help, but fail to literally address the question. The thread (don't remember what it was about to link it) that sticks out in my mind was a woman who came asking for advice and left after very rude comments/advice were made. The comments were ill conceived, but had the intent of helping in the way of guiding to a better prep/product/method.

I can also see the other side too - we (newbies) come in seeking advice but do not necessarily like the answers that we get. Price seems to be a huge factor in quality. That said, sometimes it's just easier or more helpful to answer the exact question asked, perhaps with a caveat that more quality or better results can be expected with yada, yada, yada, etc.

It certainly is also frustrating to never hear back about advice given, but I think this is just the product of a forum. Some come looking for one answer. Once they get it, they have no interest in sticking around. I can also say that it can be difficult to find old threads, too. I've never really participated on a forum before so there is also a learning curve with that.

 
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Posted Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:19pm
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 7:04am
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I am not ignoring anyone.. I am a full time college student approaching the end of thesemester while working full time at my job as well. Yes, I was slightly offended by the responses from Buckley, and yes I honestly had no idea I was so completely clueless. I found this website through googling "coffee help" and it was one of the first results. I did not come here to poke at coffee experts or try to scam them or whatever it is that he thinks. I literally wanted to stop going to Starbucks all of the time and learn how to make my own.

I appreciate the advice that everyone is giving me. Like I said before, I can't afford to spend more than $200 right now because well, I am a student working for minimum wage. I have not had much time to research the recommendations but I think I will definitely end up trying the aero press. I will be sure to let everyone know what I come up with.
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 7:08am
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Actually I searched "espresso help forum". and for the record, I did read the espresso how-to before I posted my question. Also, though other and previous searching on the internet I came upon a video where someone was using a spoon to tamp because they did not have a tamper. I thought it was a decent idea.
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 8:08am
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ses90 Said:

Actually I searched "espresso help forum". and for the record, I did read the espresso how-to before I posted my question. Also, though other and previous searching on the internet I came upon a video where someone was using a spoon to tamp because they did not have a tamper. I thought it was a decent idea.

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While vastly inferior to an actual tamper, a spoon is probably the next best thing that one would have on hand.

On your budget, the aeropress is a wise move. Without a good grinder, getting preground probably makes sense (though we geeks cringe at the idea).
Combine that with syrup & ice and you might come very close to what you're looking for.

You could try other roasters (either local or internet/mail-order). I roast my own beans so I'll leave it to others to make recommendations, but as has been mentioned, you can do much better than Starbuck's beans.

You also might want to freeze your grounds (in an airtight container to keep the moisture out).

PS: While I drink 95% of my espresso as straight shots, one of the things that got me thinking about espresso in the first place was that I liked Starbuck's Iced Mocha Lattes (sort of as a hot weather dessert drink, not as my go to coffee drink). I didn't have them often but did enjoy them and wanted to be able to make them at home. I do occasionally combine espresso, cocoa and milk, mostly over ice in the summer, occasionally as a hot drink in winter, and they taste quite good, though I do have "real" espresso equipment.

Good luck on your coffee venture!
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:38am
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I disagree that a spoon is the next best thing to a proper tamper. Look around your kitchen (and the rest of your house for that matter)...have your pf basket in hand during the search, and see if you have anything with a flat round bottom that comes close to fitting inside. I found several small glasses that are far better than a spoon. The ones I found are beer sample size.

To OP: FWIW, the accusatory posts from Buckley were far from his usual highly respectful posts, where he tends to use many pleasantries...in fact, many more than just about everyone else here. I'm glad to see you don't scare off easy and are still participating.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 3:01pm
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ses90 Said:

I am not ignoring anyone.. I am a full time college student approaching the end of thesemester while working full time...  I can't afford to spend more than $200 right now because well, I am a student working for minimum wage.

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Cut your losses. Seel what you have to someone for what you can get, and get a Baratza Encore (about $100 refurb) and either an Aeropress ($25) or, my personal choice, an Espro Press (price depending on size). Feed it good coffee (IOW, not Starbucks) and it is easy to make a great cup of coffee with either. The Espro has the advantage of larger capacity and a vacuum insulated vessel.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 3:09pm
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emradguy Said:

I disagree that a spoon is the next best thing to a proper tamper. Look around your kitchen (and the rest of your house for that matter)...have your pf basket in hand during the search, and see if you have anything with a flat round bottom that comes close to fitting inside. I found several small glasses that are far better than a spoon. The ones I found are beer sample size.

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You're probably right but I don't like pressing down hard on glass.

frcn Said:

Cut your losses. Seel what you have to someone for what you can get, and get a Baratza Encore (about $100 refurb) and either an Aeropress ($25) or, my personal choice, an Espro Press (price depending on size). Feed it good coffee (IOW, not Starbucks) and it is easy to make a great cup of coffee with either. The Espro has the advantage of larger capacity and a vacuum insulated vessel.

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Since she needs something espresso-like, is the Aeropress more appropriate than the Espro? I've never used either.
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Posted Sun Apr 6, 2014, 3:47pm
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BarryR Said:

You're probably right but I don't like pressing down hard on glass.

Posted April 6, 2014 link

How hard do you press? Me, I go just until I feel the puck is formed, so the glass isn't an issue.


BarryR Said:

Since she needs something espresso-like, is the Aeropress more appropriate than the Espro? I've never used either.

Posted April 6, 2014 link

Aero press produces something resembling Moka pot, while Espro press is the ultimate French press.

 
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