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d33pbluez
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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 5:17pm
Subject: Rancilio Silvia PID setting with some question
 

Hi Guys,

I had recently just order PID from auber for my rancilio silvia V3 and before the PID unit arrive i had download and study the instruction menu. I had one thing to ask regarding on the installation on the relay.... Is there any specific orientation that need to watch when assemble the cable from the relay output to the boiler ? Because on the menu both cable (Steam and Brew on the output relay) are shown with same colour....

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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 5:43pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia PID setting with some question
 

I am not totally sure what you are asking.  You have the picture to follow.  From PID controller to SSR matters as to orientation, it is DC voltage.  The Load side, red and black, of the SSR is really an AC line on each side of the SSR. The SSR acts to open or close the circuit on the single AC line passing through.  One line broken at the SSR switch, so one color. You are showing fig 17, and fig 18 and 19 seems to explain that.

That may not be any more clear, so rephrase if you want more information.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 6:56pm
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D4F Said:

I am not totally sure what you are asking.  You have the picture to follow.  From PID controller to SSR matters as to orientation, it is DC voltage.  The Load side, red and black, of the SSR is really an AC line on each side of the SSR. The SSR acts to open or close the circuit on the single AC line passing through.  One line broken at the SSR switch, so one color. You are showing fig 17, and fig 18 and 19 seems to explain that.

That may not be any more clear, so rephrase if you want more information.

Posted December 4, 2013 link

Hi D4F,

Thanks for the reply on my inquiry ... I try my best to explain (Sorry for my bad English if i did jumble them up abit)

What i mean is that

As can be seen that brew control at relay side shows 2 red cable connected (Left and Right side connected area)...but when it comes to end boiler side, Based on the picture below one wire will connector the red boiler wire another will be connected to grey boiler wire.. is there any specific orientation  or just simply plug in as long as it was connected to brew boiler wire...

example:

Relay Left wire need to be connected to boiler brew red wire.
Relay right wire need to be connected to boiler brew grey wire.

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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia PID setting with some question
 

I am assuming that you have the Kit rspb install guide.  I am looking at the guide, not at a Silvia, I have Gaggia.  The guide sounds similar to Gaggia.  The red cables from the SSR connect to the wires that connected the the Bstat  and the black wires from the SSR to the cables that were on the steam stat.

I can see that on Fig 19 of the guide.  Red from the SSR to a grey wire from bstat and red from SSR to red from bstat.

I believe that you are seeing that correctly.  It an AC line and will not really matter which side of the bstat that each red goes, that is why not color coded.

Black from SSR seem to go to yellow and grey each from steam stat.

Are you looking at the diagram only, or at a Silvia and the stats?

 
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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:12pm
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Hi D4F,

Im looking at the silvia and stat not the diagram though... So would the black wire apply the same as assembly per red cable as well ?
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Posted Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:27pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia PID setting with some question
 

Black from SSR seem to go to yellow and grey each from steam stat.  The stats, and SSR, act as a on and off connector so it does not matter which side of the SSR (which black wire) connects to which leg of the steam stat.  You could pull the two wires off of a stat and connect them to the other side of the same stat without difficulty.  The stat, and SSR, just connect or disconnect the wires.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 5, 2013, 2:06am
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Hi D4F,

Appreciate the help offered and thanks you very much on the technical advice on the fixing the PID relay. Cant wait to try them out once i receive them next week.
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