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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 1:39pm
Subject: What roast do you use with a Moka Pot?
 

Hello all,

Pretty subjective I am sure but roast do you like to use with your Moka Pot?

What about to make iced coffee with your Moka Pot does that change what roast you use?

Thank you
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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 1:52pm
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I normally use an espresso blend when using my moka pot, but I have tried single origin arabica coffees with mostly good results.  On the other hand, I once tried an excellent Sumatran coffee in a My Pressi Twist and it made really bad espresso.  Moka pots seem more tolerant than espresso machines of different coffee beans. Never tried making ice coffee using a moka pot.
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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 2:19pm
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DeCoffeeman,

Thanks for the reply.  I have some Peet's French Roast that when made taste burnt.  I went to Starbucks Komoto which is dark and seems really oily.  So was curious what others are using.
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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 3:31pm
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French roast by definition is pretty much charcoal, if you tasted anything else it would be amazing. Starbucks tends to over roast also so again, you got what you bought.

If you are very lucky at Peats you might get fresh coffee and almost never at Starbucks.

Fresh is two weeks FROM THE DAY IT WAS ROASTED. If there isn't a roasted on date on the bag, don't buy it, it is stale.

Look for a city or city + roast, you should have no oil or burn smells.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 3:45am
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You need a fine ground coffee and dark roasted. Fine grind can provide right amount of surface with water that can build enough pressure to extract properly. We need a dark roasts also because it has low acid. We are using boiling water and steam, thus a low acid is needed to keep it from tasting like vinegar.

Making ice coffee with Moka Pot canít be possible.

 
Did you know...? Dark roast coffees actually have less caffeine than lighter roasts due to the fact that the process of roasting burns off caffeine.
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 4:34am
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Dark roast is a matter of taste and if you like charcoal, then brew with dark roast.
Yes, you can chill the brew from a moka pot or pour it over ice, ignore above.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 5:00am
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CoffeeLoversMag Said:

You need a fine ground coffee and dark roasted. Fine grind can provide right amount of surface with water that can build enough pressure to extract properly. We need a dark roasts also because it has low acid. We are using boiling water and steam, thus a low acid is needed to keep it from tasting like vinegar.

Making ice coffee with Moka Pot canít be possible.

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Is there a way to stop this guy posting so much incorrect stuff everywhere??!?! What are you talking about? You can use any roast in a Moka, I use medium, doesn't taste like vinegar.. wtf lol?!? If you like the taste of charcoal briquets in your mouth then by all means use a dark roast. Sure you can make ice coffee with it, pour right over ice after brewing to chill it. Same way I make an iced coffee in the morning with espresso, pour right over ice and add milk. And you don't need just fine, you need a grind between espresso and drip, if you use as fine a grind as espresso you'll choke the Moka or cause over extraction. If you can buy some Pilon or Bustelo brick at a store, that's the grind type/quality your looking to  aim for in Moka, then you can just adjust to taste from there.

admiral70 Said:

DeCoffeeman,

Thanks for the reply.  I have some Peet's French Roast that when made taste burnt.  I went to Starbucks Komoto which is dark and seems really oily.  So was curious what others are using.

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like said, look for some city or city+ roast, and fresh roasted at that. Can order online or look for a roaster in your area (not Peets). Starbucks burns their beans into oblivion and are long since stale by the time you buy them. French Roast roast is basically just burnt, really no taste of the coffee bean, more like charcoal or cigs lol. Another thing that will affect the taste, and no offense, but the Mr Coffee Burr grinder is a pretty poor grinder, more like a bean masher, if you can step up to a better grinder (doesn't have to be expensive, like the Baratza Encore) you'll see way better taste with the Moka. If your not sure how to really use Moka, there are some good vids online or just check on here, way too many people don't use these correctly and complain about flavors and burnt taste... their not packing the right amount of coffee, or leaving too long on stove etc etc.
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 7:27am
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CMIN Said:

like said, look for some city or city+ roast, and fresh roasted at that. Can order online or look for a roaster in your area (not Peets). Starbucks burns their beans into oblivion and are long since stale by the time you buy them. French Roast roast is basically just burnt, really no taste of the coffee bean, more like charcoal or cigs lol. Another thing that will affect the taste, and no offense, but the Mr Coffee Burr grinder is a pretty poor grinder, more like a bean masher, if you can step up to a better grinder (doesn't have to be expensive, like the Baratza Encore) you'll see way better taste with the Moka. If your not sure how to really use Moka, there are some good vids online or just check on here, way too many people don't use these correctly and complain about flavors and burnt taste... their not packing the right amount of coffee, or leaving too long on stove etc etc.

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Great recommendation I will look for a city roast.  So far I see medium in my local stores I will look online.  Funny you said taste like charcoal or cigs because my wife just about spit out some I made yesterdays saying it tasted like an ashtray.

What is your favorite website for buying fresh beans?

Back to the drawing board I go.
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 7:42am
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I buy my espresso beans for the moka pot from Red Bird Coffee in Montana.  Jeff of Red Bird is always great to deal with. You'll have the freshly roasted beans in a few days.  I roast my own beans for coffee other than espresso, but I never had had success with roasting espresso blends.
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 9:07am
Subject: Re: What roast do you use with a Moka Pot?
 

admiral70 Said:

Great recommendation I will look for a city roast.  So far I see medium in my local stores I will look online.  Funny you said taste like charcoal or cigs because my wife just about spit out some I made yesterdays saying it tasted like an ashtray.

What is your favorite website for buying fresh beans?

Back to the drawing board I go.

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Yeh the problem is anything in a store like a grocery store, is crap lol, beans are months and months old, and not roasted good to begin with, anything that has a use by or best by date on it run away from lol. You need to find a coffee shop (not like a Starbucks or similar) by you that uses fresh beans from good roasters (just google your area for coffee roasters or shops) which they'll sell to you, or order online. There are tons and tons of roasters. My two normal go to's are http://www.fairmountaincoffee.com and http://www.cafedonpablo.com .

redbird mentioned above is good, I've used Paradise Roasters as well, and bunch of others.

If you want to try something different you can grab Bustelo or Pilon at a store and some Demerarar or Tubinado sugar if you can find it (brown sugar will be fine though), and make whats called Cuban Coffee down here. Just remember Moka pots are different cup sizes (cup = 2oz in Moka terms) so each type has it's own requirements for water and amount of grounds.
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