shadowsnuzzy Senior Member Joined: 8 Jan 2011 Posts: 70 Location: Pleasanton Expertise: Just starting
Posted Wed Jul 10, 2013, 1:06am Subject: Cappuccino with latte art = WRONG
I've never really understood the difference between a cappuccino and latte. Sure the portions are different, but is there really more "foam" in the cappuccino or is it just less overall milk? I'm starting to think the whole idea that a proper cappuccino has more built in foam is bs. I don't think there is a substantial difference between the milk prepared for a latte and the milk prepared for a cappuccino.
I Saw this guys Youtube comment on a video of a barista making a cappuccino and pouring a latte art heart.
"Another video of﻿ a CAFFE' LATTE not Cappuccino......DIO MIO..............A cappuccino you pour quicker so the milk seperates in the cup with the coffee, you poured it slow just so you could do a fancy heart.....no cappuccino's have fancy hearts on them........"
This guy's comment makes sense. By his definition, a cappuccino would have a very distinct separation of milk and foam thus allowing for 1/3 espresso, 1/3 milk, 1/3 foam. This would render something like this photo, where the espresso is at the bottom, followed by milk, and topped with a thick layer of foam.
I'm starting to believe in this more and more as under current micro-foam practices the milk is blended so well with the foam that a cappuccino just taste like a stronger latte (less milk of course). Whereas according to this guy, the cappuccino would taste very foamy and different.
What are your thoughts? When someone asks for a cappuccino, what's the right way to serve them?
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Posted Wed Jul 10, 2013, 8:19am Subject: Re: Cappuccino with latte art = WRONG
There is indeed a different type of foam on a Cap vs a Latte. There is a lot more foam in a Cap. The ratio is apx 1/3 1/3 1/3 but is not cast in stone, drink what you like. There are no layers between the milk and the espresso, they will mix as you pour in the foamed milk and the foam will rise to the top of the drink to form a cap of foam.
There is a reason it is LATTE art and not CAP art, the foam is different, a Cap foam is very thick and silky while a Latte foam is much thinner in both thickness and consistency.
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Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 3,023 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:33am Subject: Re: Cappuccino with latte art = WRONG
You are correct it is the Cappuccino foam is very different and can't do latte art with a traditional Cappuccino foam, but I do it every morning on mine. I can do traditional Cappuccino foam very easily in 3-4 oz of milk, it is very hard to get latte art in that volume of milk. I believe Cappuccino was named after the monks bald dome that the foam cap resembles.
If I ran a coffee stand, I would probably strive to make it old school and use lever machines and do a traditional Cappuccino foam rather than what I drink every morning. Just to stand out from all the other coffee shops around.
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