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brianl
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Location: Chicago IL
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic (w/PID)
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 8:03am
Subject: Re: Moving away from my coffee shop, improving homemade
 

I have a VARIO and Gaggia Classic with PID.

Got the Gaggia for 200 (used on ebay) and it cost me about 90 bucks to install the PID myself (no kit).

The VARIO is regularly for about 360 refurbed. The Preciso is also a great machine.

I have a EC155 as well and sure you can get something decent. I didn't find it worth messing around with. The Gaggia Classic is a well documented machine that everyone knows of.
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FoundlingOfDollar
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 8:22am
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This weekend I pulled two shots on par with a good but not great coffee shop using some taller del taller from Sweet Maria's roasted Friday. The new grinder is working miracles already. Waiting for my new filled filter basket to arrive so I can chop off the bottom of my portafilter so I can diagnose tamping issues, didn't get as much crema as I was hoping for.

If I decided to go that route, where could I find a ready made PID?
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brianl
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:53am
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you won't find a ready made PID for the EC155 (or at least I haven't based on when i was looking). If you're considering a gaggia classic, the best 'ready made' Pid is probably by auber.
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takeshi
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 1:39pm
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FoundlingOfDollar Said:

I would love to be able to buy a brand new Silvia or La Pavoni and Rocky, but I can't afford it.

Posted June 25, 2013 link

If the posts above didn't make it clear enough -- definitely skip the Rocky.  If you can afford the Silvia skip it as well, get an SBDU that isn't overpriced and use the savings for a better grinder.  The grinder matters more.

emradguy Said:

I don't plan to elaborate more on the Rocky, but suffice it to say...I've had one and don't recommend it to anyone for espresso.

Posted June 26, 2013 link

I liked it for drip but when I realized that I wasn't drinking drip I sold it and the Technivorm.  In any case there are plenty of recent recommendation threads that go into the why behind the "not for espresso" recommendation.
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Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 8:14pm
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FoundlingOfDollar Said:

... so I can diagnose tamping issues....

Posted July 1, 2013 link

Much more likely to be distribution issues than tamping issues. But in either case the bottomless pf will help you a lot.

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emradguy
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Posted Mon Jul 1, 2013, 8:16pm
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takeshi Said:

If the posts above didn't make it clear enough -- definitely skip the Rocky....  In any case there are plenty of recent recommendation threads that go into the why behind the "not for espresso" recommendation.

Posted July 1, 2013 link

I've written some of them, as has Don (takeshi). Sometimes I just get tired of explaining in full detail over and over.

 
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