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Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 4:00am
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FinnFelton Said:

It is my humble request please don't post any answers about coffee consumptions until you're very sure of. Coffee contains caffeine whose overdose is not good for health. That I know.

Posted April 5, 2013 link

I would suggest that you do your own search from the primary literature and make up your own mind. Asking a large group of lay people is sloppy and lazy if you really want this knowledge or information. It's also ineffective.
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Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:10pm
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Basically, I agree, but I do believe that you can find some experts in the field of coffee around this forum. Their information might be biased, though, because CoffeeGeeks are usually coffee lovers after all.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:20pm
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NobbyR Said:

Drinking high quantaties of coffee over a period of 6 to 15 days, you might develop a tolerance towards caffeine. This is because caffeine interacts with the adenosine receptors in your body, which are located in the cell membrane and up-regulated, when stimulated continuously, i.e. the cell produces more receptors than usual, so that it requires a higher dose of stimulants to activate them.

There can be sort of a physical and psychological addiction. Stop drinking coffee in a situation like that might lead to withdrawal symptoms like headache, drowsiness, depression, lack of concentration, discontentment, lack of energy or slight nausea, which are usually only short-lived. The signs usually start about 12 to 24 hours after last intake, are most severe for one or two days and pass completely after two to nine days. Since coffee is a legal drug and freely available, that's not really a problem. Like I said there's no danger to your health, when consumed responsibly, which does include even five cups per day. The notion that coffee is bad for your health has been outdated for quite a while, but it's a folklore that still lingers in the heads of a lot of people, even old-fashioned practitioners.

An overdose of caffeine (more than 1 g taken at once, which equals at least five cups of drip coffee or five double shots of espresso or 10 liters of cola or about 12 cans of energy drinks) can lead to signs of excitement like tachycardia and extrasystoles, raised blood pressure, sleeplessness, agitation, headache, and diarrhea, depending on the dose. A severe intoxication might even cause a syncope. For an otherwise healthy human being, the lethal dose for caffeine is about 10 g, again taken at once.

This information is as sure as evidence based medicine goes.

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Finally I got what I was looking for. A complete answer! Thanks NobbyR for your reply. I guess now I know everything about coffee after reading your detailed answer.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 5:32pm
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Everything in moderation, and it's my OPINION that anything over 3 cups is excessive.  Everybody's body is different though and I pay attention to what my body is telling me. My limit is 1.5 cups of coffee and 1 espresso per day.  If I go over I start to feel some ill effects.
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 6:03pm
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crazy4espresso Said:

Everything in moderation, and it's my OPINION that anything over 3 cups is excessive.  Everybody's body is different though and I pay attention to what my body is telling me. My limit is 1.5 cups of coffee and 1 espresso per day.  If I go over I start to feel some ill effects.

Posted April 8, 2013 link

+1 for your reasoning.  If more people listened to what their bodies were telling them preventable illnesses would surely decline overall.

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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 1:58am
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I have noticed something, that if I don't drink coffee in the morning then during my office work I feel very tired. Could this be a symptom that I'm addicted?

 
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 3:10am
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FinnFelton Said:

I have noticed something, that if I don't drink coffee in the morning then during my office work I feel very tired. Could this be a symptom that I'm addicted?

Posted April 9, 2013 link

It could be a symptom of not getting enough sleep. Are you a generally anxious person? Anxiety and stess are also associated with poor sleep pattern and resultant tiredness during the working day.

Maybe you are just not a "morning" person and that little jolt of caffeine is just enough to get you going.
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 5:58am
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FinnFelton Said:

Could this be a symptom that I'm addicted?

Posted April 9, 2013 link

Could be a lot of things ranging from not getting enough rest over sleep apnea to caffeine dependency, the last one being a condition least to worry about.

After all...

NobbyR: No Life Before Coffee.jpg
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 8:29am
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FinnFelton Said:

I have noticed something, that if I don't drink coffee in the morning then during my office work I feel very tired. Could this be a symptom that I'm addicted?

Posted April 9, 2013 link

No, it is a symptom that you need more coffee.

Len

 
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 3:58pm
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Asking for health advice on a forum called coffeegeek seems like a request for enabling...

I am happy to oblige;

Like many things in life  focus on quality versus quantity. This holds true for coffee, women, cars, real estate, friends, and most things (with minor exceptions for wealth, thinness, intelligence...)

A short life filled with extraordinary experiences is better than a long life filled with mundane routines.  Drink as much excellent coffee as you like, avoid bad coffee.

Balancing this equation is your job, don't let others lead your life.

And for God's sake get health advice from health experts.
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