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emradguy
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Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
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Posted Tue Mar 12, 2013, 6:39pm
Subject: Re: Newbie here, with probably some questions that have been asked before but...
 

Those grinders are made by Eureka.  I don't know them...so can't really comment on them.  The only grinder of theirs I've really heard anything about is the Mignon, but I think it's a home environment grinder, so wouldn't really apply to you.  I know there are some people here who do know Eureka grinders, so hopeflly, you'll get some helpful comments.

NS makes good machines, so you should be good there.  Remember, as mentioned before, the best machine for you is going to be one your local service guy can take care of.

Take a look at the cafe photos on espresso vivace... http://espressovivace.com/retail.html  It's a bit hard to see, but the two photos of their curved bars actually have two commercial machines on them.  At peak hours, they have two baristi operating each machine.  One only pulls shots, while the other froths milk and pours and operates the cash register.  They have a 5th person serving food items, at least one more person in the kitchen (out of sight, so I don't really know) and one more taking care of tables, etc.  The line moves pretty well and the atmosphere is really nice.  Anyhow, it's just a thought if you really do get super busy.

 
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Posted Tue Mar 12, 2013, 7:02pm
Subject: Re: Newbie here, with probably some questions that have been asked before but...
 

emradguy Said:

Most good cafes use Mazzer grinders.  As Rob said, the Robur is their flagship and considered by most to be the pinnacle of excellence.  Mazzer grinders are built like tanks and will last longer than you or I (though they need new burrs every 400-500 pounds of beans - like all grinders).

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Uh, no.  Actually most say 1800#s, not 400-500.

 
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emradguy
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Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Tue Mar 12, 2013, 7:07pm
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yeah?  I hadn't ever heard that number...but I know you've been at this quite a bit longer than me, so I will defer to you.  Although Macap told me that my burrs were rated for 400#

 
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 5:00am
Subject: Re: Newbie here, with probably some questions that have been asked before but...
 

We tend to "geek out" and change the burrs much more often than a coffee business does. 400 pounds of coffee when you are using 5+ pounds a day will result in a burr change about every 3 months or less, much less if you are busy.

OP, the comment about money is one that may well not apply to you if you have "enough" to cover your expenses and be happy. Most startups are shoe string operations and the owner is putting ALL their eggs in that basket, including their house payment, car payments, insurance and living expenses. A good one years worth of money is what you need to give yourself a fighting chance to make it all work. I am glad you are not in that situation.

Like others have said, Mazzer tends to be the brand of choice in most shops due to their rock solid reputation and build quality. I know very little about your grinders, so I wish you luck with them.

If your service guy knows them and has a stock of parts for them, you should be OK.

Thank you for taking my post in the way it was meant. Speaking the truth often does not go well and people get offended when they do not understand or like the answers they are getting. I WANT you to make it, the world needs all the great coffee shops they can get!

 
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