Interesting, especially as you seemed quite upset with me when I mentioned that both items were not great in terms of achieving good espresso and that you would do well to get rid of them?
However, you're getting there, even though you chose a Francis Francis...still going for style over substance ;-)
No I haven't yet, IMAWriter. And the reason is cause I need 57mm. I'll won't add hundreds of NOK of cash on a tamper. They are an obsolete and then expensive. So with shipping, taxes and charges Norway want, it's not worth it. My machine is curved under, so I wanna try both i guess.
Did YOU?!?!?! The review is 10 years old, and no longer valid in any way, shape, or form as a) the machines are not the same now as they were a decade ago, and b) so many other machines have entered the market that are far superior in the SBDU class.
Is an F!F! solely a "joke"? No, of course not. As Dave said, you are getting there . . .
No I haven't yet, IMAWriter. And the reason is cause I need 57mm. I'll won't add hundreds of NOK of cash on a tamper. They are an obsolete and then expensive. So with shipping, taxes and charges Norway want, it's not worth it. My machine is curved under, so I wanna try bought i guess.
Obsolete? Hardly. I'm not sure what you are reading, or THINKING, for that matter. We acknowledge that distribution of the grind in the basket is VERY important, but a level tamp, making sure the edges of the basket are sealed is as well. You will NEVER get consistency shot after shot without a proper stainless steel tamper. No one said doing proper espresso at home was cheap. perhaps you should have done a bit more research.
That said, I can't imagine not finding a fairly inexpensive 57mm tamper from a Euro source. You are buying and selling gear (mostly lower grade) at an alarming rate. At least use the money you get back for a tamper. Then BEFORE you purchase next time, ASK for advice. We are here to help. But please know that the espresso world has begun changing a bit more rapidly...new machines, grinders, etc so LOOK at the date of a published article as well as it's content.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:59am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
A local machine shop could make you a tamper out of metal and put screw threads on top and you can get your friend to make you a wooden handle if you can't buy one locally.
Tamper is basic equipment. And one of the reason people like the pro sized portafilters is the tampers and baskets will work from machine to machine that way because they are about the same size.....
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This is completely false. You can tamp with whatever is handy - and a perfect fit is not a requirement either. With a quality grinder some don't bother tamping at all - just leveling off the top.
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
IMAWriter Senior Member Joined: 4 Jul 2002 Posts: 5,462 Location: Brentwood, TN Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Nothing at the moment Grinder: Vario-W,Preciso-Esatto/KyM... Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup Drip: Brazen.Chemex, Hario, Clever... Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:48pm Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
EricBNC Said:
This is completely false. You can tamp with whatever is handy - and a perfect fit is not a requirement either. With a quality grinder some don't bother tamping at all - just leveling off the top.
Eric, I beg to differ. What you say can work with a lever...I KNOW this, but a NON professional, a Beginner, as is our OP will find better consistency with a nice level tamp, especially to prevent edge channeling. Your statement "a perfect fit is not a requirement either?" Sorry, I believe that is not correct, or craftsmen like Reg Barber, Richard Penney, and others would have been out of business LONG ago. I posted regarding CONSISTENCY. Period.
Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 1:17am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
You think what you want about the importance of that steel tamper - I will use mine or what ever else is handy (wood, plastic, spice bottle, etc) and pull the same shot most every time. It comes back to dose and grind - that is where consistency matters. A scale is a better tool for improving consistency - even if a nice looking tamper looks better than a scale...
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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