ZzLine Senior Member Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Posts: 36 Location: Norway Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Francis Francis X3 Grinder: The point is to ENJOY THE... Roaster: Dualit--> The English Verson...
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 3:59am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
I obviously have seen videos on youtube more than once. Now I will show you what I can make of Espresso - since words are inadequate ..
And Do not mind that it drips from the handle, (or whatever the correct name is) obviously it had to happen this one time I was going to shoot, but I do not care since it has nothing to do with it.
The question are, is this an Espresso or not? I think I approach heavily on what I've seen others have posted on youtube. Or what do you say guys? ;-)
I am not quite sure what to say....with trepidation I comment. It's probably not what you would be looking for in an espresso. The extraction was a bit lengthy, it looked likje it blonded quite early on and was either channeling or not extracting properly. I can't tell how big the cup was (or how much you extracted), but if you were pulling a double shot it looked quite a lot.....Just didn't look right.
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:43am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
That flow started out almost immediately lacking viscosity (it was like water right from the beginning at about the :10 or :11 second mark). Among many factors, this can be caused by: - stale coffee - too coarse of a grind - not enough coffee used - poor distribution of coffee in filter basket - too much coffee causing the coffee to hit the screen when inserting the filter - too much coffee keeping the filter from locking in place and causing the leak we saw - uneven tamping (not level) - defective grinder - worn grinder burrs - too high of a brew pressure
Grind so fine that no coffee comes out for about ten seconds or more. Then slowly adjust the grind a little more coarse at a time to get a slower flow that is thicker (not so much like water). Also, try a better coffee.
JasonBrandtLewis Senior Member Joined: 9 Dec 2005 Posts: 6,100 Location: Berkeley, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -... Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -... Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup Drip: CCD, Chemex Roaster: No, no, not another...
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:46am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
1) It actually does matter that it's dripping from the handle.
2) It is difficult to judge how large the glass is, but it seems big, and thus the total volume (ml) seems large - even for a double.
3) It appears your beans are stale, as there is not enough crema.
4) It does look like it blondes rather early (too soon).
5) The total time of extraction is too long; the first drop appears at 7 or 8 seconds into the video, and goes on for nearly a minute.
Line, regardless of whether you're pulling a single shot (with 7-10g of ground coffee), or a double (14-18g), the time of the shot should run approximately 25 seconds.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,372 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: Vario W
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:04am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
I know at first it is hard to judge pours, but really if you think that was a good pour you did not watch the right videos. Good videos show you how slow and thick the pours are and how different it looks from yours. When I was starting I spent about an hour on youtube and it really helped me and a lot of videos made by http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/.
This one is not perfect but you can see how thick and how long the crema lasts. I might try to get enough light to show you mine and I will let it sit so you can see how the crema acts. Click Here (www.youtube.com)
ZzLine Senior Member Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Posts: 36 Location: Norway Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Francis Francis X3 Grinder: The point is to ENJOY THE... Roaster: Dualit--> The English Verson...
Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:08am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
Ok, from reading all the comments I have to start with the elimination method. Thanks for the feedback guys, this is the fun even though my first viewing for you was not quite as expected. It usually don't leak from the handle, but good to know why it did it anyway.
But, I get to practice practice practice
Don't know how much beans costs in US, but here in Norway it cost at least 90kr for 250 grams approximately 11$
ZzLine Senior Member Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Posts: 36 Location: Norway Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Francis Francis X3 Grinder: The point is to ENJOY THE... Roaster: Dualit--> The English Verson...
Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:09am Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my bugatti Diva is new in my house..
Coffeenoobie Said:
I know at first it is hard to judge pours, but really if you think that was a good pour you did not watch the right videos. Good videos show you how slow and thick the pours are and how different it looks from yours. When I was starting I spent about an hour on youtube and it really helped me and a lot of videos made by http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/.
This one is not perfect but you can see how thick and how long the crema lasts. I might try to get enough light to show you mine and I will let it sit so you can see how the crema acts. Click Here (www.youtube.com)
Check down this list for the EU folks: Click for HB Favorite Roasters Getting freshly roasted beans will make a world of difference for you right away :)
The spent puck can be dry or wet, it depends on quite a few things.
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