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emradguy
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 4:55pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

You may want to try using a hand powered grinder. Your budget is unfortunately low for grinders we typically recommend as entry level for espresso. As you've now heard several times the grinder is as important as the machine...so it is really that concept to internalize, then you won't mind spending as much on that as you would on a machine. Hand powered grinders such as the Hario Skerton can do a very good job and save you a lot of money...but they aren't for everyone. The Vario that was mentioned is somewhere around €500, but will do a very good job.

 
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Thanks, I will look for one Hario Skerton :-)

I know you dont read Norwegian, but maybe you guys know of this anyway?
And why wouldn't this work? If you know of it..
Click Here (www.elkjop.no)

And what's the differennes in this?
Hario Skerton http://www.kaffemesteren.no/default/hario-skerton-kaffekvern

compare to this?
http://www.kaffemesteren.no/default/hario-handkvern-slim
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 6:13pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Line, that Krups is the WORST type of grinder . . . no!!!

Basically, there are two types of grinders -- those that "chop" with a spinning, or whirling, blade, and those that use burrs.  For espresso, you want a burr grinder.  Blades chop the beans into uneven pieces, and thus, an uneven extraction.  A burr grinder is much better for espresso, but not all burr grinders are alike.  You need a burr grinder that was designed for espresso.  Thus, the recommendation of a Mahlkönig Vario HOME, a grinder which uses burrs (not blades) and designed for espresso.  (I understand, Line, that -- at €380 -- it is twice what you want to spend.)

 
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 6:54pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

I guess it would be wiser to buy this one , huh?

Click Here (www.finn.no)

he sell this for 241 Euro
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emradguy
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:01pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Yeah, what he ^ said.

That Krups grinder is great for spices. In fact, I just ground some coriander seed in mine a while ago.

Here's a discussion about Skerton vs Slim http://prima-coffee.com/blog/hario-skerton-vs-mini-mill

I just found it and read it myself. Sounds to me like the main difference is capacity. I have a Skerton in my office at work. I bought it used a few weeks ago, but haven't tried it out yet.

 
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:06pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Well, if you can exchange your beautiful machine for the Silvia at that price it's probably worth it, what she lacks in beauty, she makes up for in performance. Still hard to entertain, but more feasible. Also, would provide more consistent results in the cup.

HOWEVER...you still need a grinder, so don't throw that idea away in the process.

 
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:14pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

For what I read I found mine grinder in this, yes? ;-)
I'll buy it tomorrow!
http://www.kaffemesteren.no/default/hario-handkvern-slim

And then try to operate Bugatti Diva with fresh grinded beans :-)
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emradguy
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:23pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

That should work. Then if you ever want to upgrade to an electric grinder you have time to save your money

So you found a place to get freshly roasted beans?  Great!

 
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ZzLine
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:32pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Fresh beans 300 meter away from here :-))

Or are these good candidates?

Click Here (www.finn.no)

Click Here (www.finn.no)

I need to go to bed, it's way past bedtime...

If you wanna for fun, you can have a look at this Norwegian site where I bought my Bugatti Diva ;-)
Click Here (www.finn.no)

Have a nice time, talk later :-)
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Posted Sun Jan 20, 2013, 7:54pm
Subject: Re: Hi i'm new here, and my Bugatti Diva is new in my house..
 

Line, any one of those three grinders will work for you.  I prefer the electric ones, but . . . .

Good night!

 
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