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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012, 3:26pm
Subject: What is the Warming cup tray on Espresso and coffee machines?
 

I need to know what this is for, i know is to keep the cups warm but after the espresso is done and is on the cup you put it in there? before? because in order to stay warm it will need to be turn on and steamed, i wont leave my machine on all day, so please explain the use of it!
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012, 4:50pm
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It is basically useless.  It is to warm the cup so it doesn't cool the espresso however they generally don't warm the cups enough and you still need to preheat with very hot water.
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012, 5:15pm
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The usefulness depends a lot on your machine.  As said above, you put your cups there while the machine is warming and while it's on between drinks so your cups are nice and warm and don't cool your drinks too fast.  When I had my Silvia, the warmer function was mediocre.  My Duetto is much, much better...and if I invert my cups it's even more effective.

I always have clean dry cups on top of the machine, so that when the machine comes on and warms up, so do the cups.  Of course, my machine is on more than it's off.

What machine do you guys have?  How long are you letting it warm up before making your drinks?

 
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012, 7:55pm
Subject: Re: What is the Warming cup tray on Espresso and coffee machines?
 

I have an capresso it is about 200$ but we gat it on a special deal and it had this warming cup thing, i tried it it gets really hot as soon as the machine is on, about 10 secs, so i though it could be useful while i prepare the coffee in the tray and lock it in the machine, it takes about a min or 2 with the press until its ready, so that gives it enough time for the cups to be nice and warm, it does help, also yes inverting the cups is how it works best, it had 2 cups inverted on the warming tray and it made us wonder why was it that way, i guess if others do it it must be more efficient!
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012, 8:14pm
Subject: Re: What is the Warming cup tray on Espresso and coffee machines?
 

Works great in a cafe on a commercial machine, but at home it depends.

I have lever machines at home, the Gaggia Factory doesn't have a warming cup but the La Peppina does, sort of.  It has a plastic lid with a raised hole in the center to vent water vapor.  You can put a single espresso cup over this to keep it warm, but I find that it keeps it too hot.  In any even, with the La Peppina I'll just fill the cup with water for the group to pre-heat the cup.  Since I use a bottomless portafilter with the Gaggia Factory, my espresso comes out much hotter so I do not pre-heat the cup for straight espresso and pull the shot into a room temp cup.  If I'm pulling a cappuccino, I will pre-heat the cup with water since I pull the shot first and then steam the milk so the hot cup keeps the espresso hotter longer.

They actually sell standalone cup heaters.  I saw a nice one at a hotel in Italy for coffee cups.  They served brewed coffee with the breakfast buffet unless you asked the wait staff to bring you an espresso or cappuccino.  This was at the Cosmo Hotel in Vimercate (outside Milan) and I searched Milan for the best espresso and could not find a better one than what they served in that hotel.  Still, I prefer more of a West Coast espresso here at home over the Italian style.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:50pm
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I just use the warming tray to store stuff and dry stuff.  They say warming trays mostly heat the cup rim and it is better to heat everything but the rim, like you do when you add hot water.  Also, just the other day I put a honey jar up there that the honey was crystallizing.  It works well for reversing that.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 30, 2012, 3:35pm
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The point of the cup warming tray is or was a basic one:
a lot of coffee shops (bars) in Italy and I'm assuming in the busy area of the rest of Europe as well,
go through so many ceramic cup that they have special dish washer made just for the cups, saucers washing,
assuming that they use cold water or again USED TO,
then you are loading the top of your machine with dozens of cold cups,
a lot of espresso machine made for the European marked had an extra switch that will activate a low heating element to warm up QUICKLY the cups, some machine used steam as well (San Marco)
of course the heat of the boiler will eventually warm up the cups anyway,
infact a lot of machine sold here, will sometimes have a place or even a "dead" switch still present but not connected
considering the local market  (the location is not that busy or doesn't use ceramic cup).

yes yes the above post has a very good point, logically you want the "but" of the cup to get warm and not the rim
but then there is the consideration that dust or anything might go inside the cups while seating there,
win win or loose loose eh?

 
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Posted Fri Nov 30, 2012, 4:46pm
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The  Nespresso ES-100 Pro pod machine we used to have at work (before it leaked) had a clip on shelf behind it where you could store cups.  The plastic shelf has and electronic heating element to act as a cup warmer that would plug into the espresso machine.

I tried the pods out but preferred to use my Mypressi Twist at work, probably because I could use fresh coffee dosed up to 18+ grams instead of a 6 gram pod and under temp water.

 
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Posted Sat Dec 22, 2012, 3:38pm
Subject: Re: What is the Warming cup tray on Espresso and coffee machines?
 

Just to add an additional point: The warming tray keeps the cups dry when they warm, as compared to just using hot water to heat them.

This is important if you are attempting latte art. A wet cup breaks your surface tension.
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