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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 8:37am
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It is interesting indeed, because after all and from a historic point of view those parameters we like to consider more or less as gospel are purely empiric and not the result of scientific testing. It's good to know that tradition can be objectively right.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 9:27am
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Didn't Dr. Illy do most of this research years ago? Isn't this pretty much just an affirmation of Espresso Coffee: The Science of Quality?
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:16am
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Yes and no. Those numbers are in his book for sure. But without wanting to put Dr. Illy's achievements for espresso quality down, I don't think the numbers are evidence based in any scientific way that he conducted something like a randomized study using blind tastings and different brewing parameters. It's more like an expert's opinion, I guess.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:47am
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I'd rather drink an espresso that tastes good than one that is scientifically correct any time.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:50am
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yakster Said:

I'd rather drink an espresso that tastes good than one that is scientifically correct any time.

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LOL That's why those numbers are only guidelines and no laws, because sometimes toying with parameters can lead to excellent espresso.

 
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 4:20pm
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GVDub Said:

Didn't Dr. Illy do most of this research years ago? Isn't this pretty much just an affirmation of Espresso Coffee: The Science of Quality?

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Yes. There was extensive research, testing, and tasting that went into those numbers. The Illy book confirms that and so much more. While there will always be more room for discovery in espresso brewing, it's no accident this group just re-confirmed the wheel still works.
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 1:50pm
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Interesting
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