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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 12:24pm
Subject: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

I just rec'd a new bag of whole bean today.  they were roasted Tuesday and are in a sealed bag.  Should i fill my vario and let them sit for 3-4 days to "gas" or are they fine to use starting tomorrow morning?  I am out of coffee, so rushing the process a bit but not sure what to expect if i don't gas for the typical (is it 4 days?).

Last, should I freeze the remaining immediately, or wait for them to gas for 4 days, then freeze?  thank you
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 2:07pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

3 days should be fine. You might need a little more adjustment for the first few days of use on the grinder though.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 2:07pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

freezing question first.  there are tons of articles to read, and I say that because the answer seems to be somewhat controversial.  however, I freeze mine right away rather than let them continue to degas.  I've never had an explosion in my freezer, so I really don't worry about that.

as far as using them after only two-three days of degassing, I think I would go ahead and do it, if in the same situation you are.  Worst case scenario is...I can't really think of one.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 3:30pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

let rest for 5 or 7 days then freeze...................
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 3:51pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

Actually I freeze upon arrival at about 3 days after roasting. Works fine for me.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 4:16pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

A whole 12 oz bag of beans or 16?  If 16 and I'm out of beans anyway and with 3 espresso's per day I'm out of beans again in 10-14 days so I don't freeze any.
The bag does have a valve right?  So they have been degassing.

If I freeze I tape over that valve.  Then put that bag in a plastic bag  and retape to freeze.  I just taped over the valve one day last year, socked in freezer, and
my extra pound of Kona beans ruined.
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 7:47pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

tealboy1 Said:

I am out of coffee, so rushing the process a bit but not sure what to expect if i don't gas for the typical (is it 4 days?).

Posted May 17, 2012 link

If I'm otherwise out of coffee, the decision gets pretty simple. After two days it is unlikely to be at its peak, but no lives will be lost.

tealboy1 Said:

...should I freeze the remaining immediately...?

Posted May 17, 2012 link

Different beans peak at different ages for different uses.  Most people now agree that freezing is fine, but also that (a) the freeze/thaw cycle ages the beans about a day and (b) it's quite possible that beans age a little faster once they've been frozen and thawed - or at the very least, less predictable in their aging compared to unfrozen coffee.

So the best advice I've seen is to wait until the beans are about two days from peak, then freeze them in small batches constituting a two- or three-day supply. When you thaw them, they will be right in peak range until they run out, and then you thaw another batch.  Ball jars seem to be a favorite for this - inexpensive, tough, and compact - and a good size.
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Posted Fri May 18, 2012, 9:28am
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

see what I mean...freezing is controversial!  

Look up JasonBrandtLewis's post history and try to find one of his "freeze or not to freeze" replies.  He provides a long list of links to discussions and articles written about freezing coffee beans including whether to, when to, how to, etc.  Then you can decide for yourself based on all the data (which includes side by side expert taster cupping tests, btw).

 
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Posted Fri May 18, 2012, 8:52pm
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

Agreed - Jason puts together good stuff. Even if you disagree at the end, once you've gone through his collection you'll come out a lot smarter and with a lot more good information to work with.
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Posted Tue May 22, 2012, 10:58am
Subject: Re: Fresh beans arrived today, can I use them before gassing?
 

I was at a cupping and someone asked one of the Q graders about freezing coffee. His reply was that once it starts to thaw and water comes into contact with the bean, the brewing process has started, hence freezing beans was a bad idea. Seems to make sense to me.

 
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