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fishnoob
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Posted Wed May 16, 2012, 5:16pm
Subject: Single Shot vs Double Shot?
 

How many members pull both single and double shot espressos?

I am the only one who drinks espresso in the household and strictly pull doubles.

I tried pulling a single the other day using only 8 grams of coffee vs the usual 16g for a double along with same tamping method.

Man does that thing pull fast! It's definitely under extracted and is by no means drinkable. It's done filling it's 1.5oz in like 12 seconds?

Double shots are fine, same portafilter, same basket, everything, minus the amount of grinds (16g)

My question is, do you need to grind finer for single shots? I haven't played around with it too much since the beans currently in the hopper are a bit on the pricier side.

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks!
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 1:33am
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Using the single shot basket is usually harder than using the double.

With an 8 g dose the basket is usually not full enough. Fill the basket with ground coffee until there's a small heap, so that the basket is full to the rim once you've leveled out that heap before tamping. That is usually a good single dose, so you might want to weigh that amount for future reference. Now all you have to do us dial in your grinder until you get the right extraction, because the single basket usually needs indeed a finer setting than the double.

One further note: The La Marzocco single baskets are a little easier to handle than most other ones.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 4:45am
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Reading your post leads me to believe you used the same double basket instead of changing to the shallower single basket. Is this correct?
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 6:17am
Subject: Re: Single Shot vs Double Shot?
 

I think Steve has part of the answer, you need to use the single basket AND grind differently for a single than you do for a double.

My personal method, I just make doubles every time and don't worry about it.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 10:42am
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My tamper doesn't fit my single basket so I pull doubles and split them if needed.  I did that this weekend for family and since there were so many people the 2nd did not go to waste.

 
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 3:37pm
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always a dub    3 oz.
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 6:47pm
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I prefer singles so I modified my espresso maker:
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machinemods/567450
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Posted Thu May 17, 2012, 10:50pm
Subject: Re: Single Shot vs Double Shot?
 

steven_meyer Said:

Reading your post leads me to believe you used the same double basket instead of changing to the shallower single basket. Is this correct?

Posted May 17, 2012 link

calblacksmith Said:

I think Steve has part of the answer, you need to use the single basket AND grind differently for a single than you do for a double.

My personal method, I just make doubles every time and don't worry about it.

Posted May 17, 2012 link

That is right: single shot basket and different grinder setting.

 
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Posted Fri May 18, 2012, 1:11am
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Double (18 gram ) Ristretto.....most of the time!
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Posted Fri May 18, 2012, 12:57pm
Subject: Re: Single Shot vs Double Shot?
 

steven_meyer Said:

Reading your post leads me to believe you used the same double basket instead of changing to the shallower single basket. Is this correct?

Posted May 17, 2012 link

Thank you all kindly for the information.

Steve, you are absolutely right. My espresso machine only came with one basket, that being the double, and I have been using that one to attempt the single. I need to find a diff basket so I can make sure!

It is conclusive from this thread:
1) Must use single basket
2) Must grind finer for a single shot rather than double

Simple Solution: Double shots only =P

Thank you all for the replies, especially NobbyR for going into depth.

BTW, the espresso maker mentioned is the Saeco Aroma. I am having a case of upgraditis!
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