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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:09pm
Subject: Re: Why make such a big deal about tamping @ 30 pounds?
 

Mine is not settable it is from espro and my understanding is it is just a 30 pound tamp.  The site talks about a click.  I don't really hear a click, I hear/feel the spring when it gives.quoted text

Ok, thanks..
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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 5:21pm
Subject: Re: Why make such a big deal about tamping @ 30 pounds?
 

I had that Espro tamper.  I bought mine new.  No audible click, but there was definitely a feel of a click-like mechanism, and it was (according to Espro) set for 30#.  I usually pushed right through it.  I had it a long time before I took my barista training class at Klatch back in 2009.  when Heather got out the bathroom scale to measure our pressures and show us what 30 pounds felt like, I rang in at 60#...so much for the Espro clicky device!  Obviously, I stopped using it.  I've been tamping pretty lightly the past couple of years.  No longer do I get into the action of really compressing the puck.  Rather, I give it a decent tamp and go by feel of the grind compression, as soon as I feel it's packed in a bit I stop.  I start by pushing lightly while my finger tips feel the edge of the portafilter and I check it for level by feel this way.  Occasionally, I bring it up to eye level after to check for a tilted tamper (from multiple angles), but when it feels right, it tends to look right on further inspection, so I don't do it that often.  OK, I have to confess, I stole the finger tip part of the tamp from watching a video of Chris Nachtrieb on his website.  Once it's level, I apply a little more pressure just until I feel the puck is compressed - no more.  I'd guess I'm probably closer to about 20#, but as we keep reading here, over and over...I'm consistent...and my shots come out great.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:50pm
Subject: Re: Why make such a big deal about tamping @ 30 pounds?
 

GlennT Said:

Am I missing something really fundamental here?

Posted April 13, 2012 link

Yup.  Both good and bad information get propagated via discussion forum sites.  Always consider the source -- both the person and the age of the post/thread.  As others have stated, if you limit yourself to recent threads here you'll see that consistency has been the mantra, not specifically 30 pounds as in the old days.
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