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AndyPanda
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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 5:53pm
Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

frank828 Said:

it's below his name on the left on every post.

Posted April 13, 2012 link

not on my screen. All I see is the join date and number of posts. Probably depends on the browser.

Though I could go to his profile and read up - but regardless of what machine he has ... my points were:

Don't assume your PID temp equals your brew temp (maybe you have the one magic machine that is like that - but I'd be surprised)

It's not difficult to raise your temp a few degrees and try it ... sour usually means not hot enough.

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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 6:03pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

I hope that you know that it is just your choice of settings on this site. I just tried it and turned off the info, and then back on.

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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 6:41pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

Turned it up to 207F. Sip. Nope. Still doesn't taste right, though now it's less sour. I'm kinda afraid to turn the temp up too high. I swear the thermometer said the PID set at 207F was 200F at the grouphead, but I could be wrong. Can a few degrees off really make that big of a difference? I could try 210F, I guess. I also tightened the grind a tad, so now it's pulling 2oz at 30 seconds.

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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 7:06pm
Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

JDHarding Said:

Turned it up to 207F. Sip. Nope. Still doesn't taste right, though now it's less sour.

Posted April 13, 2012 link

This should be a positive result, not negative as your post makes it seem. You've increased the temp and made an improvement in the taste. Wasn't that your goal. If it is still sour, up again. If not, then play with your other variables.

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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 9:00pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

I liked redbird better as ristretto, maybe dose at 20g, pulling roughly 1.75 oz. of volume in 30-ish seconds. I'll suggest to try raising the dose first to get a tighter pull and then if it's still sour bump up the temperature.

Jon Rosenthal Houston, TX

JDHarding
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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 9:42pm
Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

JonR10 Said:

I liked redbird better as ristretto, maybe dose at 20g, pulling roughly 1.75 oz. of volume in 30-ish seconds.
I'll suggest to try raising the dose first to get a tighter pull and then if it's still sour bump up the temperature.

Posted April 13, 2012 link

I was originally doing 20g pulls, but decided I was using too much coffee. I guess I could try 20g again.

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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:06pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

Raise 1-2 degrees more, and again check the temperature out the group. You could always speak with Jeff at Redbird.

JDHarding
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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:59am Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

210F now. Not as sour as before, but still sorta sour. Deffinately easier to drink now. I still don't taste any chocolate.

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:34pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

Try a degree up, or down, and vary your grind pull a little. I am not great at tasting chocolate, but at least you got rid of sour.

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:37pm Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong with my Redbird?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAFbwoaH7o :P

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