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Posted Thu Mar 22, 2012, 8:03pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

hint for future take lots of photos and use tape and a sharpy if needed.

Posted March 22, 2012 link

Grrr.. :P

 
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Posted Thu Mar 22, 2012, 9:24pm
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*sigh* Well, I can't figure out the wiring. I guess it's going in the trash. :(

 
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Posted Thu Mar 22, 2012, 9:43pm
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Ouch. Did you try talking to the seller? That does sound like a rip-off to me. Should've gotten the Oscar from me that was on sale at that time. ;P The lesson is you would still have to be careful with purchase in CG. My last Oscar wasn't a pleasant experience either despite the seller was a CGer.

If anyone could help, I bet EricS is the one can help with the wiring. If all else fail, you could try finding him on HB forum. He lurks here sometimes too. And yeah, the last time I took my Oscar off, I did take a lot of pictures with Sharpie. Definitely do that next time. Wish you best of luck with the rebuilding!
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:25am
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To quote a famous scifi book, don't panic. Look for photos on the web, I am sure you can figure it out.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 9:25am
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JDHarding Said:

*sigh* Well, I can't figure out the wiring. I guess it's going in the trash. :(

Posted March 22, 2012 link

Good machines shouldn't die. I'm sure we (the forum) can get you out of this.

I'd even be willing to take a crack at it if you want to ship the machine, but hopefully there is someone closer who can take a look to avoid that expense.

- James

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:12am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

To quote a famous scifi book, don't panic. Look for photos on the web, I am sure you can figure it out.

Posted March 23, 2012 link

I can't find photos for the bottom of the boiler, the pstat, or the pump. Also, photos I have found are not the same colored wires. There's grey wires; I have no idea where they go. They might go to the pump. But there's 4 wires for under the boiler, and I worry I might put them on backwards or something else will go wrong. And the only 2 wires that reach the pstat are the same blue color, so I don't know how that works. None of it makes any sense. There's no + or - symbols on anything. How the hell did they put this thing together without knowing what's positive and negative?

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:40pm
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There will probably be a logic to the wires even if they are not the same color.   The pstats are common, what one do you have? Pumps are also common.  Do you have multi meter?   The boiler might be trickier.   But if you have the same pstat and pump as me I can take meter readings and tell you what I have where.   Main thing is be methoughtical and you will get through it.  Worse comes to worse you will have to pay for some help.  Start with figuring out what wire seems to be ground.  Mine are green and yellow.

You are in WA state, you have about 3 different espresso repair companies around you and NS headquarters.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:47pm
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did you find this link, looks like lots of photos.  Did you see his "Necessary anal-retentive parts bins; I wouldn't attempt this otherwise:"  That was impressive.

The same yellow and green wire is being grounded to the case it looks like.  There is a lot of blue wires, that makes it harder.  I see no gray just brown. You are going to need a meter for sure.

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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 1:21pm
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Yeah I saw all those pics. Here's what I have so far:

I didn't remove any of the switch or lights wires, or the ground wires connected to the side of the frame.

Bundle means they're wrapped together with plastic zip-ties, which I figure means they go to the same place, or places near each other.

1st Bundle of wires (I think this pair is mainly for sensors):
- Blue = Possibly goes to upper water reservoir sensor?
- Dark green = Goes to boiler probe on top, I remember this one

2nd Bundle of wires:
- Green-yellow = Possibly goes to lower water reservoir sensor? I've seen this one in pics, and it looks like it goes to the reservoir sensor.
- Grey = Reaches area where pump is, maybe goes to pump?
- Grey = Reaches area where pump is, maybe goes to pump?

3rd Bundle of wires (this set seems to come directly from the power button):
- Brown with O-ring connector = Goes to boiler mains
- Blue with O-ring connector = Goes to boiler mains
- Blue = Only long enough to reach pstat
- Blue = Only long enough to reach pstat
- Blue = Long enough to reach round sensor-like thing on the bottom of the boiler, maybe goes to this?
- Brown = Long enough to reach round sensor-like thing on the bottom of the boiler, maybe goes to this?

4th bundle of wires:
- All of these go to the 2 block-shaped sensors (I think they're sensors) that fit on the pipes, not sure which pair goes to which block thingy.

That's what I have so far.. maybe you guys might know where they go.

I didn't know Nuova Simonelli was in Washington. If I took it to them would they fix it? I thought about taking it to SeattleCoffeeGear, but I have no idea if they deal with Ellimatics or not.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2012, 1:41pm
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You would have to ask them.  You also have espresso parts, espresso rescue and another one I don't know the name of in your state.  I know this from ads for sales of restored machines on craigslist.

 
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