Posted Thu Dec 15, 2011, 10:33pm Subject: Re: How to roast barley for espresso
calblacksmith Said:
len, I don't think so. everywhere in all the links on this thread about barley espresso, the distinction has always been made of barley as the ingredients being brewed. the debate in this thread occurred because the original poster the neglected to include that distinction. I really don't care what you brew in the espresso basket
the original poster also made a bad assumption that with out saying cafe to the end of espresso then anything could go skies the limit . that's simply is not true either as above, serve somebody something other than coffee in there espresso in they will be really ticked off unless they specified that they wanted their espresso made out of something other than coffee.
From the articles I read from Italy, consumers are running around already referring to the drink as "Barley Espresso". Next thing you know, France will jump on the bandwagon. Then on to Hollywood where it will be deemed, "So avant garde", where all the stars and starlets will be fawning over each other for a "Barley Espresso". Then its just a matter of time till the hipsters in California influence the liberal wackos in Connecticut, then I get p*ssed.
All joking aside, that's how it happens.
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
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Posted Fri Dec 16, 2011, 5:34am Subject: Re: How to roast barley for espresso
calblacksmith Said:
Like I said, as long as there is a modifier, Barley espressed coffee, Barley coffee, Barleysso etc I have no problem. If you say ESPRESSO it is a coffee drink.
LOL! now your confusing me. are you saying you have a problem with the term barley espresso? just asking because you didn't list that one. isn't calling it "barley coffee" the same difference?
like len said, before long the fad will reach here. then we will have to be more specific when asking for an espresso to avoid confusion. example...i would like a "coffee espresso" please. ;)
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
Bitches_Brew Senior Member Joined: 4 Feb 2009 Posts: 764 Location: indiana Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: yes Grinder: yes Vac Pot: no Drip: no Roaster: yes
Posted Fri Dec 16, 2011, 9:02am Subject: Re: How to roast barley for espresso
i wonder if wine snobs were outraged when people started making wine out of stuff other than grapes?
barley wine, ginger wine, rice wine......
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
I don't know about "wine snobs," but from a regulatory standpoint, I am not aware of a single country that doesn't classify/define "fruit wine" as different from "(grape) wine." OTOH, "barley wine" is actually a form of beer, rather than wine per se.
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
But the point is that it is not "still called wine." It is called "fruit wine" or -- for example -- "cherry wine," or "plum wine," or "barley wine." NO ONE that I can think of has ever sold, marketed, or even referred to (e.g.) a plum wine by saying "this wine will pair great with your dinner." They'll say, "Have you thought about serving a plum wine?" or "The barley wine made by Anchor Brewing is called 'Old Foghorn'." (No one says "The wine that Anchor makes is called . . . ")
The term -- without the modified -- refers to something altogether different. The modifier is the key!
That said, the last time I looked this was not correct-use-of-english-vocabulary-and-grammar.com, but rather coffeegeek.com, so perhaps we can stick with more germane topics . . . .
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
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