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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 6:15am
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I recently got a Nuova Point 6.5 oz cappuccino cup (very cool), but the cup size is relatively small 6.5 oz.  When I put in two shots of espresso, it's almost 2/3 full.

Should I have only put in 1 shot and fill with equal parts milk?  Thanks.
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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 7:12am
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A double shot of espresso is only 2 ounces, and that is a good amount for a classic cappucino in a 6.5 ounce cup.  Often times my doubles are more ristretto at 1.5-1.75 oz. and that works well in a 6 ounce cup (but I usually prefer 5-5.5 oz. cup)

If your 6.5 ounce cup is 2/3 full from a double shot then something is amiss.
If you are using a pair of 2 oz. double shots then perhaps a bigger cup is needed.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 7:16am
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I use the same cups, love them.  I make two cappuccini almost every morning, using a double shot of espresso for each cup and steaming 8 ounces of milk total.  For each cup I put in one double shot, 2 ounces of "foam" and 2 ounces of steamed milk.  It works perfectly.  It seems your double shots are too big--almost 4.5 ounces!  Mine are usually between 2 and 2.5 ounces.  Are you putting two double shots into the cup rather than one double shot?  Either that or you are getting too much espresso with each pull and your grounds are probably not fine enough.
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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 7:28am
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Well... I use a superautomatic (I know... just don't have enough time and this is one of the better ones w/ 15 bars that I got at a real good deal) - so perhaps what I need to do is to reduce the water amount of each shot.  What I sometimes do is make a latte for a 16 oz to-go cup, so maybe it was adjusted for that before.
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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 7:42am
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Most inexpensive SuperAuto machines (under $2k) need to be adjusted for the max coffee dose and the shot volume reduced to 1.25-1.5 oz.  You'll probably also need to tighten the grind 9if that is possible)

 
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Posted Wed Dec 16, 2009, 11:53am
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JonR10 Said:

Most inexpensive SuperAuto machines (under $2k) need to be adjusted for the max coffee dose and the shot volume reduced to 1.25-1.5 oz.  You'll probably also need to tighten the grind 9if that is possible)

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I see... I'll have to fudge with the shot volume, but the grind size and dose is pretty well adjusted.  I guess I have been over-extracting -- is that why my drink often has that fishy taste?

I've always suspected that fishy taste in the coffee is due to beans going stale, but I'm going to begin home roasting next week (yay!), so I'll find out more.
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The fish oil taste CAN be overextraction, in some cases.  In other cases, it is evidence of a dirty machine.  When was the last time you ran a cleaning cycle?


Even when you make a big latte, you should keep the shot volume low.  Unless the machine uses more coffee for a larger water volume, all you are accomplishing by making the shot longer, is too water down the espresso.  Your best bet to get the best result, is as Jon noted.  Set the machine to use the most coffee possible, for the smallest amount of water possible(1.0-1.5oz).  if you're making a large drink, make the machine pull you two shots.  it will be a much better drink then a watered down 4oz "espresso".

 
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Posted Wed Dec 23, 2009, 12:29am
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Jmanespresso Said:

The fish oil taste CAN be overextraction, in some cases.  In other cases, it is evidence of a dirty machine.  When was the last time you ran a cleaning cycle?


Even when you make a big latte, you should keep the shot volume low.  Unless the machine uses more coffee for a larger water volume, all you are accomplishing by making the shot longer, is too water down the espresso.  Your best bet to get the best result, is as Jon noted.  Set the machine to use the most coffee possible, for the smallest amount of water possible(1.0-1.5oz).  if you're making a large drink, make the machine pull you two shots.  it will be a much better drink then a watered down 4oz "espresso".

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Well, reducing the water down to about 1-1.5 oz did the trick.  It tastes much better now.  Thanks!
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Posted Thu Dec 24, 2009, 4:18am
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Awesome!  Glad I was able to help :)

 
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