xdavez Senior Member Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 467 Location: USA Expertise: Professional
Espresso: Silvia w/ 'PID' of course.... Grinder: Mahlkoenig K 30es, Mazzer... Vac Pot: none Drip: Technivorm Roaster: Behmor
Posted Fri May 9, 2008, 4:37am Subject: Thoughts on the new Vibiemme dual boiler
As seen at the SCAA show
Steam boiler too small -- being corrected. both boilers UNinsulated -- case runs EXTREMELY hot -- I have concerns about the electronics inside and long term reliability front panel still a little flimsy when torque is applied by the PF handle
Otherwise, great looking and with many cool features.
Advice? hold off until these things are corrected. don't become an unpaid beta tester
JVBorella Senior Member Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 405 Location: northeastern CT. Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: LaSpaziale S1 Vivaldi 2 Grinder: Macap M4,KA Pro,Zassenhaus... Vac Pot: Press Pots/Finum Filters Drip: Melitta BCM-4c Roaster: Before Long
Posted Fri May 16, 2008, 3:01pm Subject: Re: Thoughts on the new Vibiemme dual boiler
I'm curious why they would use such a large brew boiler. According to the specs on Espressocare.com it has a 1.4L b/b with a 600w element. Who needs that much water in the b/b & why use such a small element? Compare that with the .45L b/b on the Vivaldi which uses an 800w heater. The smaller boiler with a larger element will give faster recovery after a shot, respond quicker to a temp change plus with a smaller boiler all you need is a quick 2-3 oz flush if you want to drop the temp a degree or two.
There are a number of things that make me wonder what all the excitement is about this machine. $2100 for a vibe pump pourover that could have used quite a bit more r&d??? Unless you've got to have the shiny metal box look the Mini Vivaldi seems like a much better machine for less money.
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