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Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006, 7:10pm
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I just started using the technique in which you cut out a yogurt cup, essentially use it as a funnel and boundary for the portafilter and get rid of clumps by swishing  around the grounds with a needle. I'm surprised at how well it works to reduce channeling. Just wondering if anyone else does this?
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Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006, 8:53pm
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I thought I was until I just now heard about the yogurt cup.... I think I use JonR's modified version....
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Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006, 9:40pm
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Reighlok Said:

I thought I was until I just now heard about the yogurt cup.... I think I use JonR's modified version....

Posted April 14, 2006 link

Hi Kyle. Here's a link to my article, which describes the WDT in detail. The yogurt funnel is not only a convenience to reduce mess, but also contributes to consistent dosing. Variations on this approach will certainly work (some of my early posts on CG mention stirring with a needle without a funnel), but this is the one that works best for me.

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Posted Fri Apr 14, 2006, 10:12pm
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I only use it when I need to, and then, only at home.  It's very time-consuming on the bar at work, and I'm not sure I like it 100%.  I see a small flaw in it, but it's not as big of a deal as channeling, and I don't have the time to go into it right now.

So.. I guess I do? sans the yogurt cup.

 
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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006, 5:15am
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I'm lovin it! Much more even extractions (from what I can read from my naked pf), which is resulting in much nicer espresso.

I wouldn't use it if I was workin in a cafe though ... I'd just waste more coffee to get a more even distribution.
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Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006, 4:19am
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I just started using it and it has made a HUGE difference.
I started with a yogurt cup but ended up making something better. I cut a baby bottle cap down to form the funnel.
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Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006, 9:44am
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Nawakwa1 Said:

I just started using it and it has made a HUGE difference.
I started with a yogurt cup but ended up making something better. I cut a baby bottle cap down to form the funnel.

Posted April 17, 2006 link

Hi Greg. Glad to hear this is helping. Could you post a pic of your funnel? Suggestions for improvements are always welcome!

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Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006, 10:09am
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I think it's helpful!  I suppose if I were a polished pro barista it might not be as beneficial as I would have my technique optimized already from years behind the espresso machine.  OTOH, as the mere espresso mortal that I am, it's a slick little improvment to my distribution.  FWIW, I find that my Rocky grinder benefits a bit more from the WDT than my Mazzer does.

Yogurt cup, yeah it helps- seems to keep the grinds from slopping out on the counter with stirring.  Hardest part is cutting the darn Yogurt cup square so there are no gaps around the PF basket...

Hey John- do you cut your Yogurt cups so they fit inside the basket or outside the basket rim?  Maybe it doesn't matter?
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Posted Mon Apr 17, 2006, 10:23am
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k7qz Said:

I think it's helpful!  I suppose if I were a polished pro barista it might not be as beneficial as I would have my technique optimized already from years behind the espresso machine.  OTOH, as the mere espresso mortal that I am, it's a slick little improvment to my distribution.  FWIW, I find that my Rocky grinder benefits a bit more from the WDT than my Mazzer does.

Yogurt cup, yeah it helps- seems to keep the grinds from slopping out on the counter with stirring.  Hardest part is cutting the darn Yogurt cup square so there are no gaps around the PF basket...

Hey John- do you cut your Yogurt cups so they fit inside the basket or outside the basket rim?  Maybe it doesn't matter?

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Inside the rim. Check the pix in the H-B article.

The nice thing about plastic is that it deforms a bit, so you can wedge the funnel inside the filter basket fairly securely, then pop it out easily when you're done stirring. The bad thing is that it's, ahem, less than aesthetically pleasing. If this catches on, perhaps some enterprising individual would consider manufacturing and selling a more polished version of the funnel, complete with stirring tool. :-)
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Posted Tue Apr 18, 2006, 9:32am
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RapidCoffee Said:

If this catches on, perhaps some enterprising individual would consider manufacturing and selling a more polished version of the funnel, complete with stirring tool. :-)

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Something like a home canning funnel with a long neck and a short stainless skewer (sp?)...  or the stainless funnels they use at malt shops that keep the milk from splashing out of the cup.  I bet if you went to a commercial kitchen supply shop they may have just what you're looking for.  Getting the right size to fit the various filter baskets would be the challenge.

I have tried it, but without a Naked PF it's hard to tell if it made much difference.  Of course I just used a toothpick and no funnel, but it did seem to help make the puck much smoother and tamp more even.

 
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