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Posted Mon Sep 13, 2004, 4:43pm
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JonR10 Said:

My guess is they may sell older beans than what's being used ehind the counter.  IMHO the Relax can pull awesome shots (even gawd-shotz and OMG-shotz).  Do the beans you take home have the roast date on them?  

Here's a nice shot on my own Relax machine.

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Posted Mon Sep 13, 2004, 4:45pm
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JonR10 Said:

OK - I am assuming you asked me this question.  
If not I apologize in advance for the uncalled-for information post.

That particular shot was a 50/50 mix of Uganda Bugisu and SM's Monkey Blend (rested 2 days after the roast IIRC).  I have had excellent results with a variety of beans and roasts.  

The biggest upgrade in espresso for me was when I started roasting my own beans.  It's much easier than I would have ever thought and the results are just out-of-this world (even for a newbie with a $6 popcorn popper).  

And just for information, this weekend I just ordered 16 pounds of green coffee and the total cost to me (including shipping) was $80.  If you do the math that comes out to $5 per pound for some of the best from all over the world...

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Posted Mon Sep 13, 2004, 5:10pm
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Drinks like this can be made using the Isomac Relax

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Posted Mon Sep 13, 2004, 5:36pm
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coffeejunkie Said:

I think it could also be the difference in grinders being used,  Rancilio Rocky  vs.  Mazzer Super Jolly (plus teamed with a Linea).  Mazzers have an infinite grind setting,  whereas with the Rocky you just have the one click settings and that's it.

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Chris...
While it is true that 'out of the box' the Rocky's have detented settings, they can easily be made infinite. If one just finds the proper sized wedge to insert between the upper side of the body housing and the lower surface of the hopper, it can be set anywhere between detents. For me that was toothpicks wrapped with scotch tape to the proper thickness. I was thinking later that electricians tape might have even been better as a non-skid material.

It didn't take much pressure to hold it in place between settings.

Also, the Teflon tape is very effective in tightening up a burr. I did that just as a matter of course. The Rocky we had was used to begin with (another e-bay find) and needed new burrs. The old ones didn't exactly fit tightly, so I just taped the new ones before inserting them and it eliminated a bit of ticking the original burrs exhibited. Come to think of it, the wedge was originally designed to lift the back of the hopper a bit to align the burrs better, and the side-effect was infinite adjustment.

After we altered our Rocky it made tweaking more Mazzer-like (we own a Super Jolly). I would rate them comparable for the quality of the grind after the alteration. The Rocky takes longer to grind and is noisier, but very respectable (18-20 seconds to grind a 18-20gm versus 10 seconds for the Super Jolly). After buying the Super Jolly, there was no need for 2 quality grinders so the Rocky was sold to a friend.

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Posted Tue Sep 14, 2004, 4:55am
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ljguitar Said:

Chris...
While it is true that 'out of the box' the Rocky's have detented settings, they can easily be made infinite. If one just finds the proper sized wedge to insert between the upper side of the body housing and the lower surface of the hopper, it can be set anywhere between detents. For me that was toothpicks wrapped with scotch tape to the proper thickness. I was thinking later that electricians tape might have even been better as a non-skid material.

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Geez, Larry... Why didn't I think of that!  Great idea!  Do you find that the Rocky drifts at all during use without the detent to hold it in place?

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Posted Tue Sep 14, 2004, 5:27am
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I think that Greg et al have covered the grinder pretty well.  For the record, I've just been lent a mazzer mini and the difference is incredible.  I suspect that I need to do the teflon tape trick.

You are doing a cooling flush on the relax, right?

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Posted Tue Sep 14, 2004, 6:01am
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Ron_L Said:

Geez, Larry... Why didn't I think of that!  Great idea!  Do you find that the Rocky drifts at all during use without the detent to hold it in place?

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Ours didn't

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Posted Wed Sep 15, 2004, 3:40am
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Posted Sun Sep 19, 2004, 5:53am
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ljguitar Said:

Ours didn't

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Cool... I'm going to try this out on mine to see what happens...

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