Posted Fri Mar 28, 2014, 8:18am Subject: Re: Want to replace my super automatic
Just be aware if you are considering it, the BDB is a consumer appliance grade machine not a prosumer grade machine, if you are OK with that, go right ahead, this is just a heads up for full disclosure.
In the home, if all you are doing is a double-shot a very few times a day, I don't know that it would matter a whole lot that it wasn't a prosumer grade machine. Or am I thinking wrong?
I've got an Alex and have felt from day one that it was overkill for the few shots a day I pull. Of course, the big advantage to it is that fixing it when needed isn't all that difficult and parts are easy to find and install. I would think from reading here, that repairability could be the big issue with the BDB.
beegoode Senior Member Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 21 Location: New Jersey Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:59am Subject: Re: Want to replace my super automatic
I have a Vibiemme Jr HX machine for sale (see the Buy and Sell Forum). Would be a step up in quality to what you are looking for but may be more complicated than what you are looking for. You still need the best espresso and grinder (I have a Rocky which I am considering selling as well). Basically, this is an addicitive hobby (not just the caffeine) and I am looking to trade up.
man114 Senior Member Joined: 23 Aug 2013 Posts: 24 Location: NY Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Saeco Classico,... Drip: Norelco Dial A Brew
Posted Fri Apr 4, 2014, 2:37am Subject: Re: Want to replace my super automatic
If you can afford keep both a more manual machine and the super auto. I keep a couple more manual machines on hand in addition to my Jura Capresso Impressa S8.
I bought all my machines at thrift stores so to me budget wasn't an issue. Though I recently unloaded my Starbucks Barista (Saeco) and gave a Bosch to my friend.
Each machine will provide a different learning curve, you can search back and see how I figured out how to get decent results out of the super auto.
I usually use the Capresso to brew double shots, in the morning, when convenience is key. You have a trade off of a bit of quality vs. convenience, as I've said in past posts the Impressa heats up faster than the Keurig, can get a shot off before the Keurig is even heated up. Great for quick decent quality in a hurry. Considering I put hundreds of cups on it (had like 194 when I got it if I recall), only issues I have had are cleaning related. It seems to perform fine if you don't mind keeping it clean.
I usually use my manual machines to brew Americanos after dinner. Might be the same beans I dump in the Capresso, but usually get a better creama. On single thermoblock I still get the hot water off the Capresso and the end result is great. Really it is all about time.
The super auto is the ultimate machine for waking up and getting ready for work in a half an hour, turn it on, press a button and you are done, like any pod coffee maker. I suggest if that is what you want look at some of my past advice to pull a decent shot out of these things.
If you want quality more control is available with anything more manual. Plain & simple.
Having had the luxury of paying next to nothing for any of my machines keeping the super auto wasn't an issue, and I am happy to own it, not only for convenience but to help owners figure out how to get decent coffee from one.
If you can keep both do it and realize the benefits of both. If it means buying a more manual model used I would investigate that route.
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