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Posted Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:43am
Subject: Francis Francis X5 Portafilter Replacement Questions
 

I recently purchased a Francis Francis X5 machine (black) at Goodwill for $24.99.   I always check Goodwill for Espresso machines, only ever see Mr. Coffee ones, so I was shocked when I saw this sitting on the shelf.  Brought it home and ran Dezcal through it (steam wand was plugged).  It works PEFECTLY. It wasn't even a gamble - our Goodwill returns for in store credit within 30 days so I figured I had nothing to lose.

I'm done bragging - now to my question. :)

The machine only has one portafilter with it (pod style).  I'd like to get a regular portafilter that holds ground coffee for it but don't care if it is a Francis Francis one.  Is there a generic portafilter that would fit this machine?

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Posted Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:44am
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Other photos - wasn't sure how to post more than one photo in my original post.

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Posted Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:46am
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Last one.

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Posted Tue Feb 25, 2014, 7:00am
Subject: Re: Francis Francis X5 Portafilter Replacement Questions
 

Congrats, for that price you did OK. FF machines have a very small boiler so keeping them temp stable through the shot can be an issue. The only place I know of parts for them is from FF. They are pretty tight fisted on internal replacement parts and want you to go through the repair network, having them do the work. A coffee basket should be a replaceable part though.

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Posted Tue Feb 25, 2014, 7:35am
Subject: Re: Francis Francis X5 Portafilter Replacement Questions
 

No kidding on the boiler, the light for temp goes on and off during the shot.  But it does make a decent shot - I was quite surprised.  

I started out with a low end espresso machine (DeLonghi) which is what I compare it to.  It's a step up from that - solid frame, heats up quickly (brass boiler) probably because of size of boiler more than what it is made of, and the pump seems to work effortlessly, pretty to look at, stupid clock on the front - looks like a pressure gauge if you squint though LOL!  But for a house with 2 espresso drinkers and lots of hot tea drinkers - it's not practical.  I bought it for someone here to take to work or to their dorm room (no mess!) or perhaps it would make a good travel machine.  Pods are a little spendy for it to be practical for a college dorm.  I may even sell it after I've had my fun, I don't think I'll lose money on the deal.

However, I wasn't sure what you meant when you said a coffee basket "should be a replaceable part" - wasn't sure if you were saying I could get one but only from FF or it should be replaceable with generic part, or perhaps you were being sarcastic?  "It SHOULD be replaceable but you are dealing with FF so....."

Do anyone know if a generic portafilter in the same size would fit in this machine or did they create it so that only FF portafilters will work?
Anyone ever tried this?
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 8:25am
Subject: Re: Francis Francis X5 Portafilter Replacement Questions
 

No, there was no sarcasm, you should be able to get the part. The coffee basket is the part that fits inside the portafilter, it holds the ground coffee, the portafilter holds the coffee basket and locks into the group head.

It takes longer than for the light to go out for the machine to warm up. You need to have the WHOLE machine to temp, not just the water, that takes a bit of time, minimum of 15 minutes but longer is better. Most machines take half an hour to reach temp stability.

Portafilters and coffee baskets are measured in MM. Industry standard is 58mm, the FF is smaller but it was a very long time ago when I owned your machine, it was also my first step up from a Krups pump machine and for what it is, it did OK but FF tends to be more fashion over function but with a bit of care it can pull an OK shot when fed properly ground, fresh coffee. For the price you did very well but as I am sure you know, much better machines are to be had.

Perhaps someone will know what size the PF / basket is. Most of the time generic parts of the same size can interchange such as 58mm baskets etc but there are exceptions so exact information on your machine needs to be discovered.

The clock is a bit of a fake out. It would not have been hard to have made it a gauge but a cheep clock did not cost as much but the LOOK is there, fashion over function :D

 
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