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Tesla
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:56am
Subject: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

Hi everyone,

I'm a first time poster. This is a fantastic forum and I have learned a lot here.  

I need some feedback from owners of Silvano to understand if it has enough steaming capability to create good microfoam using Soy Milk. I get mixed messages from reading reviews.

Answers to some relevant questions:
- This will be my first Espresso machine.
- I already have a Vario grinder that I use for drip.
- My typical usage will be a couple Cappuccino's at a time and up to 20 drinks a week.
- I don't drink dairy milk :).

I have narrowed my choice to QuickMill Silvano or Anita. My choices came from reading many product reviews & vendor comments about the service from Chris coffee.

The only reason for choosing Anita is for steaming capability but I would rather save $500 and buy Silvano if it will work for me.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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gophishin
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 2:26pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

I haven't used a Silvano, but from what I have read, it has good steaming power because of the thermoblock, and is an excellent single boiler machine.  I have used the Anita and I found it to be a great machine with plentiful steaming power.  My current machine being a single boiler as well, I would say you're going to notice less difference between the steaming power of the Silvano and Anita and more difference in the overall performance of having the quick recovery, heat stability, and potential quality in the cup of an HX machine.  

I typically pull one straight shot first thing in the morning (after adequate warm up) and then half an hour later I'll pull two more doubles that will go into my out the door latte.  The PID on the Silvano will help a great deal, but the E61 group and larger boiler of the Anita will lead to much more stable temps and faster recovery on repeated shots, plus plentiful steam on tap.  I think the Silvano is a very nice machine, and I'd be glad to have one, but after having used an Anita for awhile I do think the additional $500 is worth it, IMO.  I've been making pretty good drinks on my Classic for about 10 months now, but I'm already thinking about which HX machine I will go to next.
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Winnisk
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 4:25pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

My wife drinks soy caps and the Silvano does the job as long as you are keeping the soy to 8oz or less. However, having said that, steam power is not the Silvano's best feature. If all I was doing was making milk/soy drinks, I would probably look at machines with more steam power.

Either way, we have found the biggest thing with soy drinks is getting the right soy product. Personally, I have found nothing that even comes close to Pacific Foods Barista Series

If I were you, if you haven't already, I would give Chris' Coffee a call and talk to someone there.

Good luck and enjoy whichever way you go!
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 5:34pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

I have been using Silvano for more than 2 years. Like the previous posted, the steam power is just enough. As long as you keep the volume low, like 8oz or less it should do ok.
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Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 2:14pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

gophishin Said:

I haven't used a Silvano, but from what I have read, it has good steaming power because of the thermoblock, and is an excellent single boiler machine.  I have used the Anita and I found it to be a great machine with plentiful steaming power.  My current machine being a single boiler as well, I would say you're going to notice less difference between the steaming power of the Silvano and Anita and more difference in the overall performance of having the quick recovery, heat stability, and potential quality in the cup of an HX machine.  

I typically pull one straight shot first thing in the morning (after adequate warm up) and then half an hour later I'll pull two more doubles that will go into my out the door latte.  The PID on the Silvano will help a great deal, but the E61 group and larger boiler of the Anita will lead to much more stable temps and faster recovery on repeated shots, plus plentiful steam on tap.  I think the Silvano is a very nice machine, and I'd be glad to have one, but after having used an Anita for awhile I do think the additional $500 is worth it, IMO.  I've been making pretty good drinks on my Classic for about 10 months now, but I'm already thinking about which HX machine I will go to next.

Posted February 6, 2014 link

I have a Gaggia and also the Silvano - for recovery time there is no comparison between the two machines - 100ml Gaggia boiler vs 700ml Silvano boiler (PID controlled).

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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sherpakid
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Posted Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:49am
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

I use a Silvano. I have never had an issue with the steam. I get very good steam that I can pour art with. Like others said, if you are making BIG milk drinks, it may not be adequate, but for daily use for cappuccinos, I've never had an issue. After pulling a couple shots, I make two caps every morning. The steam is more than adequate for this purpose.

 
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Tesla
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Posted Tue Feb 11, 2014, 8:42pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I went ahead and ordered a Silvano from CC.  Hopefully it will arrive tomorrow and beat the snow.
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Tesla
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Posted Fri Feb 14, 2014, 7:09pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

The Silvano arrived today. One question about the portafilter. Is it normal for the portafilter to be crooked? In other words the portafilter handle does not stick straight out.
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 6:31am
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

Tesla Said:

The Silvano arrived today. One question about the portafilter. Is it normal for the portafilter to be crooked? In other words the portafilter handle does not stick straight out.

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Tesla, that is by design!  It makes it a little easier to re-insert when you lock-and-load!
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Tesla
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Posted Fri Feb 21, 2014, 4:15pm
Subject: Re: Feedback needed from Silvano owners
 

Well I have been using my Silvano for about a week now. So far I have not gotten good microfoam. I typically steam 6oz or less in 12oz pitcher. Either my technique is all wrong or I need a different machine.
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