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voodoo11
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Joined: 15 Oct 2013
Posts: 28
Location: NJ
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville BES920XL
Grinder: Baratza Preciso, Hario...
Drip: V60
Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 5:57pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

KatBrazier Said:

Hi Voodoo11,

To put your mind at ease, you have not damaged the seal; it is made of silicon not rubber.

Posted March 6, 2014 link

Got it.  Thanks.
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voodoo11
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Joined: 15 Oct 2013
Posts: 28
Location: NJ
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville BES920XL
Grinder: Baratza Preciso, Hario...
Drip: V60
Posted Tue Mar 11, 2014, 6:52pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Quick report from the trenches.

New beans, good results.  Keeping it at 18g in and averaging 32-38g out.  Two new things to consider:

After breaking in my 920xl, I now have to take the Breville Naked PF past the locked position to prevent leaking.  I understand this is normal.  What I don't think is normal is that now it is so tough to remove/lock into place that this very action causes me to move the entire machine with this motion.  I verified the feet are in the "locked" position but this doesn't seem normal.

Also, still concerned my grinder is at 2E in order to lengthen the extraction time.  I am getting consistently good (but short) shots at blonding at the 3A setting on my grinder.  One thing I did do was increase the shot temp to 202F.  Does anyone know what/if anything shot temp does to overall extraction times?

Other then that, I'm a happy customer.  My Clive tamper arrives tomorrow and I will report back after using it a few times.  I'm assuming this will be a major upgrade over the stock tamper.
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Bill33525
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Joined: 28 Aug 2012
Posts: 5
Location: Dade City, Fl
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville Dual Boiler 920
Grinder: Quamar M80
Posted Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:04am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Just wondering if you have a new Naked PF designed for the 920? Breville said the old one will not work on the 920.
Breville says there will be an exchange program for folks receiving a 920 on exchange and owning a Naked PF from the old 900.

I am having good results with my new 920 using the manual pre-infusion technique of holding the manual button until 4 grams are in the cup and then going to full pressure.
I set my pre-infusion pressure to around 5 bars. Using the Quamar M80 to grind.
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OliveOil
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OliveOil
Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 65
Location: WI
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: NS Oscar
Grinder: Vario-W
Drip: Breville YouBrew
Posted Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:13pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Nothing to add.  I just want to follow the thread.  Sorry!
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voodoo11
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Posts: 28
Location: NJ
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville BES920XL
Grinder: Baratza Preciso, Hario...
Drip: V60
Posted Tue Mar 18, 2014, 3:04pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Bill33525 Said:

Just wondering if you have a new Naked PF designed for the 920? Breville said the old one will not work on the 920.
Breville says there will be an exchange program for folks receiving a 920 on exchange and owning a Naked PF from the old 900.

I am having good results with my new 920 using the manual pre-infusion technique of holding the manual button until 4 grams are in the cup and then going to full pressure.
I set my pre-infusion pressure to around 5 bars. Using the Quamar M80 to grind.

Posted March 18, 2014 link

I was jamming the 900 Naked PF into my machine but called Breville and returned it to them.  Awaiting the 920 specific naked PF to be released.
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boar_d_laze
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Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 1,275
Location: Monrovia, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: La Cimbali M21 DT/1 Junior...
Grinder: Ceado E92; "Bunnzilla"
Vac Pot: Royal Coffee Maker
Drip: Chemex + Kone; Espro Press
Roaster: USRC Sample Roaster
Posted Tue Mar 18, 2014, 3:19pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Sorry for the thread drift, but...

Bill,

Bill33525 Said:

... Using the Quamar M80 to grind.

Posted March 18, 2014 link

How do you like your M80?  If you don't mind taking the time to read it, what would you say to the people who reviewed it in this thread on H-B?

Rich
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Bill33525
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Joined: 28 Aug 2012
Posts: 5
Location: Dade City, Fl
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville Dual Boiler 920
Grinder: Quamar M80
Posted Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:19am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

I agree with the fact this grinder can produce a great espresso and that is why I purchased it. There is sufficient adjust-ability with the detente collar to dial in the grind with ease.
I have made a single dose tube out of a light weight PVC tail tube. This is the tube that connects to the bottom of a sink. It's 1 1/2" outside diameter.

Like this: Click Here (www.hardwareworld.com)

Used a hack saw to cut 6-8 small cuts in the bottom of the tube. The tube can then be pushed slightly into the mouth of the grinder. The grinder motor is started and the measured beans are poured into the tube. No weight is required for the grinder to process all the beans. The result is great espresso from my Dual Boiler.

Much has been written on single dosing and at least one expert on the subject has determined that weighting down the beans does not change the taste.

Finally, removed the over load switch so I can clean out the chute each time.

Hope this information helps.
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boar_d_laze
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Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 1,275
Location: Monrovia, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: La Cimbali M21 DT/1 Junior...
Grinder: Ceado E92; "Bunnzilla"
Vac Pot: Royal Coffee Maker
Drip: Chemex + Kone; Espro Press
Roaster: USRC Sample Roaster
Posted Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:53am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Bill33525 Said:

Hope this information helps.

Posted March 19, 2014 link

Bill, yes it does.  Thanks.  

Since doing a lot of research (and buying two really good grinders for my own setup), I ended up with a side-hobby of collecting folks' takes on their grinders.  The more more people, the more impressions, the more grinders and the more different ways of using them, the better.  

Rich
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PrescottCR
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PrescottCR
Joined: 19 Dec 2012
Posts: 117
Location: Prescott
Expertise: Pro Roaster

Espresso: Breville
Grinder: Baratza
Roaster: Diedrich
Posted Wed Mar 26, 2014, 9:27am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Just to show how relative things can be-

I have two BES900s, one at the warehouse where I roast and one at home. The one at home gets used MUCH more as that's the one I use everyday to test roasts (aka our morning and after dinner coffee). So every 6 month or so I'll switch them in an effort to keep the milage on each machine about the same, so to speak. I bought them around the same time.

So the machine I have at home now gives great shots at, or just under 30 seconds with the same pre-infusinon settings. My other machine was better at 32 seconds or a little more.

Same grinders, same cheater tamp, same water, same messy Barista. Still a difference. This is why I say you have to find your own 'god shot' on your own system. There's always a subtle difference between machines and other gear.

Perhaps one of my machines' OPV is slightly different than the other and that explains the difference. Or variations in the basket, or change in weather...

I only post this here because I believe this experience most likely applies to the 920 (or any other machine) as much as the manufacturer might like to say otherwise :)

PCR Rich
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PrescottCR
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PrescottCR
Joined: 19 Dec 2012
Posts: 117
Location: Prescott
Expertise: Pro Roaster

Espresso: Breville
Grinder: Baratza
Roaster: Diedrich
Posted Wed Mar 26, 2014, 9:33am
Subject: Steaming milk on the 920
 

After using an Oscar yesterday I was impressed with the steam wand performance. It SHOULD have good steam as it has only one large HX boiler. For the small cafe it was in, this is a good machine.

This got me to thinking - the BES920 now has adjustable steam boiler temp/pressure. Has anyone tried adjusting the temp up? If so- how much improvement in steaming time have you noticed? I'm just curious, this would be good to know when it comes to recommending home machines to those who like cafe lattes or caps.

Thanx!

PCR Rich
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