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mariog7
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Posted Thu Jan 16, 2014, 4:18pm
Subject: New Breville BES920
 

Seen these on some Aussie websites, but nothing in the US.  Anyone hear updates on release?

Thanks.
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 3:47am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Down under is likely the best place to hear things, they make it, MOST here don't pay much attention to consumer gear.

 
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 7:00am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

mariog7 Said:

Seen these on some Aussie websites, but nothing in the US.  Anyone hear updates on release?

Posted January 16, 2014 link

Not yet.  A lot of folks here in the US are eagerly anticipating them; although clearly, a few aren't.

BDL
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 7:16am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Mario,

I second Rich's statement.  Good pictures of the machine can be found in this thread.  Notice the machine next to it...

I can tell you that my BDB does not pull much juice (verified by my Kill-O-Watt), easily running on a 15-amp circuit with many watts to spare, so the upping of the heating elements should indeed speed up the performance.  When I first bought it over 2,200 shots ago I was blown away by the ~6 minute warm-up (Devin's pictures on HB show an even faster warm-up on the 920), and unlike my previous E-61 machines, with only one warming flush the machine is ready to go.  That reminds me, perhaps I'll make a video this weekend to show this.
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 9:45am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Thanks, guys.

calblacksmith, you are so annoying with your negativity. Can't you just stay out of these Breville posts since you have nothing positive to say?
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:19am
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I completely agree.  It's getting very tiresome at this point.
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:37am
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"Don't Shoot the Messenger".
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:59am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

How long was it before the BDB was released here vs overseas? That'll pry give you an est time frame. I have nothing against Breville, I think their lower end machines are mehhh and pointless vs others in the class, but I know some BDB owners and nobody has had any issues since release. I mentioned before buddy has two, one in office and one at home since they launched. That office one is used non stop every work day by him and employees, not one problem. Even descaled himself, which you can do, but I think voided warranty not sure. Yeh some on here had replacements, but notice it was for very minor things like the opv, or a loose gasket etc, things that can take seconds or minutes to fix, however Breville replaced quickly no questions asked no matter how minor the issue is including some that had some weird electric glitches. It was really only early batches too, recent ones have been fine with the fixes Breville did. If you had similar happen with other more expensive makes you'd be stuck yourself trying to fix, or ready to pull your hair out dealing with retailers/manufacturers to fix (not all). They could learn from Breville customer service.

Breville is listening though and on point, hence implementing user descaling now which was the only major complaint before. The only thing their lacking is a good grinder, they need a beefed up Smart Grinder like to against the Vario or even one like the Preciso would be fine. Current Smart Grinder is a great coarse grinder but almost useless for espresso. If they can make a better grinder (which rumors are they were working on beefing it up) that'd be great as plenty would like that modern matched look in the home kitchen with a capable grinder.
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:07am
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

SJM Said:

"Don't Shoot the Messenger".

Posted January 17, 2014 link

+ 100

Truth is truth, no wishful thinking is going to change that. When I truly feel that they make a quality product, I will say so and shock the heck out of a lot of people but until then as long as a person understands they are buying a consumer grade appliance and if it fits their needs, I have no problem with it.

My personal view is that this is not Amazon dot com where nearly every product gets glowing reviews from people who have had the product for two and a half hours and rave about how great it is. Sometimes people don't want to hear anything that is counter to what they want to hear. We can all have our viewpoints and we need not be the same, in fact, the discussion is what helps everyone as long as no stones are cast.

There are a lot of people who view Breville the same as I do, but when someone speaks anything not glowing about Breville, they get a lot of arrows fired at them, long ago I quit worrying about it. I had one post here, that was pretty much all I was going to say until I was asked to just go away. I do avoid the Breville love fest over the BDB  thread, it was only when I received an email from a member about a comment made about me that I replied to it there. OTW, there are darn few posts by me after the first page or so. YMMV!

 
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 3:51pm
Subject: Re: New Breville BES920
 

Many of the old timers here are reluctant to give Breville the green light and say yes they are reliable great machines.
Some are less regular than Wayne on commenting. There is ample justification for this. These people for the most part
have gone further along the road for many many years. They have replaced parts and know how machines work. They know the value
of being able to go to Espresso Parts online and order a certain part to fix their machines. They trouble shoot machines and keep them running
for one reason and one reason only....they love to drink espresso and when the machines down, no espresso. Many buy old Italian machines and refurbish them.
Its a whole culture that Breville isnt a part of. Good ,bad or indifferent its just the way it is now. Many many people here talk about
using Gaggia"s and Silvia"s for 10 years plus.  I appreciate the information I get from more experienced users. A thousand dollars is a lot of
money to invest in an espresso machine. Many people just want all the information so they can make an informed decision. I say give Wayne
a break. YMMV :) !!!!!!!
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