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johnnieyaroker
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Posted Mon Jan 13, 2014, 5:09am
Subject: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

I'm planning on getting a new espresso machine, sort of like an upgrade. I've chosen a brand, and I chose Sanremo. I'm currently deciding between the Capri model or the Zoe model. What do you guys and gals suggest? I read a few sites and all the sites that I've read says they're all good.

Thank you.

PS. my previous machines were Delonghi ECO310 Black, Breville BES860XL, and Lelit PL41 Plus (currently using it at the office)
I also have a super automatic machine at home, the Delonghi Primadonna S De Luxe ECAM26455M, for people who are on-the-go and need a quick coffee fix.
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Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Mon Jan 13, 2014, 6:47am
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

I have not had any exposure to those machines or their maker and I have not heard of them before.
Service is more important than the maker, if you can get local service for the machines then it is not a big deal who made them, for the most part, all the working pieces are off the shelf components for commercial machines regardless of who makes them. Where you may have issues is for non off the shelf parts such as body panels or machine specific items such as touch pads etc.

Your choice is basically one of style, according to the limited information between the two you are asking about, basically they are the same machine with a different box around them. If I missed a finer point between them, sorry I had to look them up to know anything about them.

You do not list a grinder, the grinder is MUCH more important than who made your machine. It is the grinder that preps the beans for use, with poor prep, your espresso will be poor or at the very least not near what the quality SHOULD be from a commercial machine. For this level of machine, you should be thinking of grinders in the $750 and up range, anything less and you are short changing yourself.

To this, you need FRESH beans, this is less than two weeks from the DAY THEY WERE ROASTED! If they have a "BEST BY or USE BEFORE"  date on the bag, they are exceedingly likely hopelessly stale. While it is possible to get fresh beans with the above packing information, it is extremely unlikely and if you get fresh beans, run out and buy a lottery ticket, your luck is running outstandingly strong!

 
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Posted Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:47am
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that. I will be using a Sanremo SR70 Grinder for that(regardless of machine choice). The distributor also recommended it along with any of those machines, so it's definitely a yes for me.

Regarding the service and parts, they got it covered since they assure it and gave a guarantee, also my place is just a stone throw away from their service center, so... yeah that's really gotta be a big plus.

As for the beans, I will be using some locally roasted beans here at my area, I will also be using imported beans as well.

A very good mention to one of my favorite local roasters and cafe is Urth Caffe in downtown LA. I've sourced and bought my beans from them since the first time I went there. They're really good in my opinion, most, if not all of them are organic as well, they roast theiur beans

I haven't really gotten to the part of roasting my own beans yet but I am planning and considering on doing some trial and errors in the near future.

Also, one of my friends has his own farm land and grows and sells his own, so I will also be sourcing some from him as well.

I have a thought of growing my own since my folks bought a farm land in some mountainous area, so maybe I could hitch a part of their land and plant some, who knows... maybe it's worth a shot but it's just a thought for now.

Previous grinders used are: KRUPS 203-42, DeLonghi KG89, Breville BCG800XL, and Lelit PL43

Back to main question, I'm still deiciding until now on which of the two I should choose. If not that, one of my chef friends says I should get a Nuova Simonelli Appia, but I'm leaning more on the Sanremo since their place is more convenient on my part.
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Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Tue Jan 14, 2014, 6:52am
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

No one can tell you which machine is "best". You are looking at commercial machines and all will be very good, you are choosing STYLE not which is better quality. Local service is a good thing and if that makes you more comfortable, then for you it is a factor to decide on.

With the exception of Hawaii, there is no place in the U.S. that will grow and produce coffee. The plants will grow but to produce coffee (unless you make a hot house with specific requirements) the U.S. is too high above the equator and is the wrong climate for producing coffee plants. If you look on a globe, Hawaii is MUCH closer to the equator than any place else in the U.S.

Some people love to roast their own but it is not a requirement for quality coffee, I gave it a try but decided I have other things to do with my time so I buy my beans roasted from quality roasters and all is well with the world for me. If you choose to roast, more power to you, enjoy but for me, it is not a way I want to spend my time.

 
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Posted Tue Jan 14, 2014, 8:01am
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

Can't really speak for myself, but my uncle has a Sanremo, it's a little young, got tiny steam and water wands, it's plumbed with rotary pump, very quiet running, it's been working flawlessly ever since we upgraded to a SSR, the relay board on top of the boiler had too many problems getting stuck on open, it's not built like a Izzo or VBM, but it works and makes great shots.
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Posted Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:17pm
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

Thank you for you insights. As of now, I am not keen on growing my own yet but it was just a thought for the mean time. I too am also sourcing my beans from roasters but I also have a plan in the future to do a trial and error scheme on roasting my own. Still doing some research until now though, but as you have said, indeed it's time consuming and my time isn't really that loose, so until then... for now, I am still going to source my beans from roasters and also going to ask some from one of my friends too.

I have asked the distributor of Sanremo here, they say both Capri and Zoe models are more or less of the same caliber, the only difference though is the Zoe which is the later model has a 6th button which can dispense water automatically, it can be programmed to dispense the desired amount of water. It can both be manually done too. Aside from that, the design as well.
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Roaster: San Franciscan
Posted Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:19pm
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

sorry, i was talking about the San Remo Treviso,
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Posted Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:27pm
Subject: Re: Sanremo Capri or Sanremo Zoe?
 

Wow very nice, I'm certain on getting one now, thanks for your reply. I am still waiting for stock availability on the Capri model, since they ran out of stock a few weeks ago. They have a Zoe model though but I'm still deciding which. Zoe is the later model though and the Capri is a previous one, although not much difference on the Zoe since their difference is only with the design and auto/manual/programmable water dispense feature. My friend told me it's not that important though, since water can be manually monitored if ever one is making an Americano.
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