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MikePriz
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Posted Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:21am
Subject: Entry level Gaggia
 

Looking for some espresso machine advice.

I'm saving up for a grinder, so in the meantime I've purchased a hand grinder for espresso, but want to buy am espresso machine right now.

I've narrowed my choice to a few entry level gaggia machines. My budget is only $200
So it's between the gaggia pure/color OR a refurbished new baby.

I know the new baby is a superior machine, but afraid of a refurbished unit. Do the 3 way valve and stronger boiler make a noticeable difference?

I'll be making espresso and milk based drinks 99% of the time just for me once or twice a day.
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Mrboots2u
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Posted Wed Jan 1, 2014, 6:17am
Subject: Re: Entry level Gaggia
 

Hi , I'd go for a gaggia classic in that range. The 3 way valve will make your pucks clean and dry to knockout.
The classic can re fitted with a silvia steam wand to help with steam power and better texturing.
In the uk amazon warehouse do deals on the classics as low as 120 sometimes .
If you can get a reconditioned pre Phillips gaggia classic eve better . These are built to last if looked after correctly and scale buildup is kept to a minimum.
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IntrepidQ3
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Posted Wed Jan 1, 2014, 8:19am
Subject: Re: Entry level Gaggia
 

If you can find a used/referb Gaggia Classic I would go for that. If you can't extend your funds go for the Baby and save the money for a better grinder.

The 3 way valve will, as stated already, dry out your puck making disposal easier. At the same time it releases the built up pressure from pulling the shot so you can take off the portafiliter right away. Otherwise you need to wait a little for the pressure to go down, if you do not you get what's called a 'portafilter sneeze'. The 3 way valve also allows for backflushing. This is extremely helpful in keeping the internals of the group clean.

I am not positive how the two boilers compare to each other in size and power. In general a stronger boiler will make a noticeable difference in wait time between shots and steaming capability.

I have two links that might be helpful for you:

This one discusses the question your asking and has good answers: http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/558251

This one is a group dedicated to Gaggia machines: www.gaggiausersgroup.com
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Posted Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:21am
Subject: Re: Entry level Gaggia
 


If you can get a reconditioned pre Phillips Gaggia Classic even better .


Just for the record, the Classic itself has remained unchanged through the sale of Gaggia to Saeco (1999) and the sale of that company to Philips (2009).  Any Classic is a good Classic.
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Posted Thu Jan 2, 2014, 3:49pm
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I got a used classic for $150 it it was in great condition
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SJM
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Posted Thu Jan 2, 2014, 3:52pm
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Someone over at H-B just got one for $45.00.
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randyhogue
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Posted Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:43pm
Subject: Re: Entry level Gaggia
 

MikePriz Said:

Looking for some espresso machine advice.

I'm saving up for a grinder, so in the meantime I've purchased a hand grinder for espresso, but want to buy am espresso machine right now.

I've narrowed my choice to a few entry level gaggia machines. My budget is only $200
So it's between the gaggia pure/color OR a refurbished new baby.

I know the new baby is a superior machine, but afraid of a refurbished unit. Do the 3 way valve and stronger boiler make a noticeable difference?

I'll be making espresso and milk based drinks 99% of the time just for me once or twice a day.

Posted January 1, 2014 link


I have a Gaggia Classic listed on  this site for $250 including accessories if you're interested.

Randy
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Fred1
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Posted Wed Aug 20, 2014, 9:32am
Subject: Re: Entry level Gaggia
 

Don't worry about a refurbished machine from a reputable deqler ike WLL.

The 3 way valve makes things easier, but any of the Gaggia machines you mentioned will do the job  All are capable of producing a great shot.  You will need to learn how to temp surf and practice a lot.

Good luck,

Fred
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