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tomn68
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 9:59am
Subject: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

I've had the Expobar Brewtus IV with Vibration Pump for over a year now.  It's great but if while making coffee the water resevour is low and the safety option clicks in to stop the boilers/heating mechanisms...  it won't turn back on once you fill it back up.  Usually I can flip power switches on and off and then it will start.  Other times it just won't reheat.  The red light won't turn back on for the boiler and the presssure for steam never comes back up.  When this happens we just dump our coffee, shut down the machine for a hour and try again later.

Any ideas?  Is there a procedure for when the safety clicks in to restart the machine?

Thanks
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 1:15pm
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OK, I will pick the low hanging fruit,
Don't let the water run out! Check it before each session and fill as needed.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 1:27pm
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Thanks.  Can you now pick some fruit that is a little higher up.
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 1:36pm
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

Sorry, it was too easy.

Really though that is the best answer. I did own an Oscar with the same shut off feature, sometimes in the middle of a shot and I know it can be frustrating, so I DID learn to check often. Oscar was good about returning to work when the water was replaced though.

I have operated machines with an interlock that would not allow brewing until the boiler reached temp, my current machine a La Cimballi M32 is that way. If the power is turned off after it was warm (not unlike turning off by the low water in your machine) even though the machine may have been on for hours, it requires that the Pstat clicks off, thus telling the computer that the machine is at temp. This means that the machine must cool enough for the Pstat to call for heat and only when the Pstat  turns off when the Pstat hits pressure, will the machine allow you to pull a shot.

I have never owned or operated that specific machine but there are some here who do have it, it may take a little while before being seen by them though as this is a BBS and members come and go as they will. I suspect that your issue may be similar though.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

Thanks for the response.  

It's not often that we let the water get to low but it happens.  When it does though, we just can't figure out how to get it going again. Like you said maybe it needs to hit some minimum temp before it will click back on.  I can watch it drop into the low one hundreds (for steam) w/o it turning back on.  Usually at that point, I've already shut it off and turn it back on in a couple of hours (needing to get back to work:)

Next time I'll leave it on to see if it hits a certain temp before it overrides the safety feature.
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 8:51am
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

Does yours have the plumb option? If so, run a tube into a 5gal Poland spring under your counter. problem solved... just make sure you check it once a month or so.
If not..
My brewtus turns back on and is fully functional when I refill the tank, if yours isn't doing this I imagine there may be an issue. One solution may be that if that machine turns itself of, before you refill, cut the power. Then after you refill turn it back on. This way the machine runs like a normal start-up.

Still, this shouldn't be an issue, I would open the back and pop out the sensor platform. There may be something blocking it on the bottom.

 
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:39am
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

Can't plumb it unfortunately.

When my tank runs out, the machine doesn't 'shut off' but it does go into that safety mode where it will stop you from pulling and the wand/steamer will stop heating...  when I refill, it doesn't want to start back up again.  Seems like it will only start back up if I turn it off for some time and start it back up.  Pulling power doesn't seem to help.

I'll take a look at the sensor as suggested. If I can find it:)

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Posted Sat Dec 14, 2013, 3:11pm
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

tomn68 Said:

Can't plumb it unfortunately.
I'll take a look at the sensor as suggested. If I can find it:)

Thanks

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take out the water tank, remove the back of the machine. Where the tank sits you'll notice the floor of the compartment is on a hinge. Remove it and see that nothing is blocking the button or spring below it.

 
Anthony C

Currently pulling:
Path Coffee Roasters (PortChester, NY) Feather in cap espresso.

Cold Brewing:
Gimme! (ithaca, NY) Moca Java

http://coffeeandneuroscience.wordpress.com/
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Posted Sat Dec 14, 2013, 3:34pm
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

Hey thanks acasabia

I'll give that a try. Cafe Grumpy? I'm right around the corner from your 18th St shop.

Thanks

Tom
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acasabia
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Drip: french press
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Posted Sun Dec 15, 2013, 12:01pm
Subject: Re: Expobar Brewtus IV Low Water Shut Off Question
 

tomn68 Said:

Hey thanks acasabia

I'll give that a try. Cafe Grumpy? I'm right around the corner from your 18th St shop.

Thanks

Tom

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lol, I dont work there, I just pick up from them, usually from their LES bakery (worth the trek for the fresher macarons). Though I did just get some southpaw from PT's Im pretty happy with, café Grumpy's heartbreaker is still my favorite.

 
Anthony C

Currently pulling:
Path Coffee Roasters (PortChester, NY) Feather in cap espresso.

Cold Brewing:
Gimme! (ithaca, NY) Moca Java

http://coffeeandneuroscience.wordpress.com/
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