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witoldb
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 10:34am
Subject: Please help to identify espresso machine from photo
 

Do you know anything about this machine?
I can buy it for around $ 140 but can't find any info about it.
Seller send me very unclear name plate photo and I can only see that it is made in Italy in 2001, got CE mark and power is 1300W / 230V / 50 +60Hz

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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 2:25pm
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That machine looks like it's been dropped on its corner and has a bent frame.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 3:00pm
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I respectfully disagree, a close look at the picture suggests that the black side panels do not line up vertically with the chrome panels in front and are casting reflections in the chrome that make it look off-kilter. Mokalibre's website is "under construction" and web.archive shows it was never meant to be accessed by the public. Probably a bean company that supplied free or heavily discounted machines with their beans. It's probably manufactured by another company. If you can't find info easily on it, it's probably not worth buying as parts will be difficult to source once they fail.
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 9:28pm
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For $140, I'd consider buying it even if I could not identify the manufacturer provided that:

- it uses a standard portafilter, not pods, and
- it comes with a portafilter and baskets (preferably standard-sized), and
- it works, and
- it is in good shape inside, and
- the tank is copper, and
- the pump, pressurestat, 3 way valve, solenoid valve, control box and any other electrically-driven components that are visible when the machine is open are made by manufacturers I recognize, and
- it wasn't dropped on its side so hard that the frame is no longer straight :)

So which of these conditions does this machine meet?
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:28am
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1) It's definitely been damaged

2) That REALLY looks like a pod group.

Run Away!

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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 3:06am
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Seller confirmed that the machine uses ground coffee.
I will see it tonight.
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 8:29am
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I think I am with Alan, run away, it really looks damaged.
If it is for spare parts I suppose it is worth $25 or $30 but you already have an Oscar so why the interest?

 
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:47am
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I have a roaster colleague with one of these 1st generation Spaziale  single groups...i'll pull off a model # ...

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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:50am
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I negotiated the price down to $ 100 because machine comes with pod basket/adaptor (looks like 54 mm tamper will fit).
Will try to source tomorrow normal basket and conversion parts.
Everything works and machine looks almost new including internals.
Side panels and part of frame are made from painted die-cast aluminium, remaining panels from SS, everything in perfect shape.
Photos look distorted because of mirror finish
Boiler is SS and around 550 cc volume (70mm OD x 145 mm long).
All fittings are compression type including 3-way valve discharge tube routed to the tray.
Only thing I saw needing repair is adjustment of spring loaded switch for the water tank.
There are no electronics/control box to break down similar to machines like Gaggia Classic
I bought this machine because it is rectangular in shape and has got quite a lot of space to install electronics, gauges, DC driven diaphragm pump and active preheat coil/coils for temperature and pressure profiling.

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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:51am
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