etout00 Senior Member Joined: 1 Sep 2011 Posts: 81 Location: Upstate NY Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Fri Jan 11, 2013, 3:48pm Subject: Help me decide between getting GS/3 or keeping my La Spaziale Dream
I am deciding between keeping my La Spaziale Dream or upgrading to the GS/3. Although the Dream has been a great machine thus far, I know that personally I will find myself questioning whether I should have purchased a GS/3 as its arguable the holy grail of 110v single group dual boiler machines. I still feel that the GS/3 is built better than the Dream; having seen both in person. The price difference is what held me back at first, but now I find myself already questioning whether I should have purchased the GS/3 instead of the Dream and I am still within the return period.
Here is my question: For all the new owners of auto-GS/3 (non-paddle), have the early issues with rattling, shoddy drip tray design, water in brain box and/or software issues been worked out? I know there are hundreds of forum topics out there concerning the early issues, but I'd like to hear from recent owners who have purchased the latest GS/3s.
I'm looking for solid advice...especially from any member that may have made the leap from a Vivaldi to a GS/3.
I would hope that an additional $4K would bump you well up along the logistic "S" curve of price versus performance/quality. IMHO, if you have the $$$, why not; if it is a stretch, then keep the Dream. I am stretching to go from my original Vivaldi I to the Dream.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 7,734 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 6:47am Subject: Re: Help me decide between getting GS/3 or keeping my La Spaziale Dream
Honestly, what is it that you think you would gain? There are several great machines available for big $ so what in particular is it about the GS3 that you feel it has to offer that you do not have now? What is there about the GS3 that other high end machines do or do not have?
If it is a simple matter of "wanting the best" then the question of what IS best, best for you? Best for construction? Best in features? Or is it simply a matter of wanting others to look "up" to you, a matter of social status?
If you have the money and want it, by all means go buy one but as I asked above, what is it that it can offer that your current machine can not offer and how much is it worth to you?
As a personal note, it is not MY most sought after machine. I am all about what is in the cup and not status, my ugly commercial machine does everything I need at the moment so I feel no desire to "upgrade", even if I did, the GS3 is not on the list of possible considerations anyway so when you say, " I should have purchased a GS/3 as its arguable the holy grail of 110v single group dual boiler machines." What makes it so?
In real life, my name is Wayne P. Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 8:53am Subject: Re: Help me decide between getting GS/3 or keeping my La Spaziale Dream
I don't know the Dream at all, so can't offer the comparo you seek.
Also (a) La Marzocco is La Marzocco; (b) GS/3 sales aren't large enough to justify the costs of true, "mass production;" so (c) every GS/3 is a little bit of a hand-built, one-off; but (d) all of the GS/3 teething issues have been successfully addressed; since (d) La Marzocco IS La Marzocco F&F, QC; ergonomics and reliability are outfrikkinstanding; and (e) the GS/3 is a true and proven professional machine in every way.
You can't make a "cost effectiveness analysis" stand up for what's really an aesthetic decision.
We only regret buying what we really want 'til the next paycheck, but regret buying something cheaper for as long as we own it. Your post makes it abundantly clear that the GS/3 is the object of your affection. Invest in the future, and make yourself happy.
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