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matteo411
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:44am
Subject: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

My equipment:

- Cuisinart EM-100 and a bottomless portafilter
- 51mm metal tamper I got on Ebay
- Single-wall filter baskets
- Baratza Virtuoso grinder
- Bellman stovetop milk steamer

I changed the grinder to the "fine" setting by taking it apart and moving where the screw was for the grind setting. Now the problem I've got is with the ring setting on "3" it's too fine and pretty much regardless of tamp pressure the machine can't squeeze out any espresso. So I've been experimenting with tamp pressure on the "4" setting and I think I got maybe one good pull out of the last 50 or so tries. Most of the time the problem is that it just comes out way too fast. When I try adding more pressure I get a lot of spraying out to the sides, regardless of how careful I am with tamp uniformity. Can anyone share experience or tips with this machine? Is it time to upgrade?

Thanks!
Matt
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D4F
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:58am
Subject: Re: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

Matt, welcome to CG.

While the EM-100 may a starter machine, so is my Gaggia.  The difficulty is in your description.  Too fine or too coarse a grind.  The Preciso is probably the lowest cost capable espresso grinder, vs the Virtuoso, because of the micro adjustment.

Is a good pull possible, yes.  Easy, no.  

If you haven't read it yet,

http://www.espressomyespresso.com/

12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME

Is your tamper fitted to the machine?

How do you control/surf temperature?

 
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http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 1:00pm
Subject: Re: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

The Virtuoso can't do decent espresso grinding. I had to ditch mine and trade it in for a Vario-W. As stated above, the Preciso is probably the lowest-end decent espresso grinder.
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 3:34pm
Subject: Re: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

Modifying tamp pressure pretty much doesn't work.  Grind and dose will have an effect.

I don't know your machine, but if it can produce a consistently correct starting temperature, a small intra-shot temperature drop and a steady ~9 bars, it should do OK.
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 3:46pm
Subject: Re: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

D4F Said:

Is your tamper fitted to the machine?

Posted November 16, 2013 link

jonr Said:

Modifying tamp pressure pretty much doesn't work.  

Posted November 16, 2013 link

Tamp pressure not so important, consistency is, but a fitted tamper that does not take several tamps will help.  I was thinking of some of the small plastic tampers.

 
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 7:25pm
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matteo411
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Posted Sat Nov 16, 2013, 7:38pm
Subject: Re: Cuisinart EM-100: a good pull of espresso possible??
 

Thanks for all the quick replies! It's great to see how alive the forums are here at CG. It will surely be my go-to source in the future.

The machine is pretty basic. I have no control over temperature or pressure. The spec is 15 bars of pressure like most other machines in this $100-$200 range.

The tamper I have is fairly close to what I would call fitted. It's a 51mm tamper and there is only an extremely small gap between the edges of the tamper and the inner edge of the filter basket. I've tried evening out all the grounds in it, leveling it off, doing the "staub" north south east west thing, all kinds of things.

Based on the responses I'm leaning towards investing in a better grinder as that seems like it could be the missing link. I'm also getting frustrated with the Virtuoso because it just makes a mess and sprays a lot of grounds everywhere when I try to hold the portafilter under the grind chute correctly.

-Matt
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