trilea Senior Member Joined: 7 Oct 2013 Posts: 14 Location: canada Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sat Nov 9, 2013, 6:47am Subject: Help with buying used
Hey, I am looking to get my first espresso setup and I found a used Celini classic (one gauge only). Its claimed that its in good condition (1yr old). I was wondering what a fair price for it would be. I was planning to go over and check it out to ensure that its in proper working order and see if I can open up the machine to check for scale etc.
With regard to a grinder i was looking at perhaps a lelit p53 or a compak k3. Im kina worried about a vario because ive heard that they only last a few years before they need replacement. Ideally, I would like to not have to buy a new grinder after every few years.
1) What kind of drinks do you like/want to make? Espresso, caps 2) How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself needing to make at any one time? 1-2 3) How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself making in any given week? 14 4) Can you plumb a machine directly into the water supply, or do you want/need a pour over machine with its own reservoir? pour over 5) Do you have a 20-amp circuit available, or only a (standard) 15-amp circuit? 15 6) What is your budget for a new machine? Does that also include a grinder? If not, what is your budget for a grinder? 2k 7) Are you willing to buy used or do you need new equipment? Do you or family member have the skills to repair used equipment? willing to buy used, relatively handy
EDIT: I checked the consumer review section already and couldnt find an option for the celini classic at all only the premium and vs of the premium
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 3,063 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Sat Nov 9, 2013, 8:43am Subject: Re: Help with buying used
I don't know about the Celini Classic but I have some used rules that I go by. (I just made them up as I went along but they are a good place to start thinking about your own rules)
Price: I would not pay over half the new price. I know there are some collectors machines that sell for more than new price but I am not in that market.
Parts: Unless it is dirt cheap so I don't care if it lasts, I want a machine that has standard or easy to get part so I can fix it. Even good condition machines will need parts over time. Easy to work on and reasonable priced parts. I don't want to pay to import rare parts to keep it going.
Features: I had a list of things I wanted and I waiting till the machine that fit that with the price I wanted in the condition I wanted showed up. I know that not everyone lives in the PNW and so has access to so many used machines. But like used cars, I feel informed shopping for used equipment is better than going to the used car lot and falling for the first shiny car you see you can afford.
Condition: You want no leaks, rust, corrosion and it should heat up. If you have all that at a good price that has affordable replacement parts then you can fix the rest.
Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.
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