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JuanR
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:38am
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

Still disappointing.  I'm far enough along in my coffee knowledge that I'm skeptical of almost anything I read that hasn't been verified by a few different trusted sources.  But think of a newbie:  they come to coffeegeek and the first thing they see on the homepage is two articles about the SCAA Conference.  This gives added weight to the event and to the organization.  The newbies go check it out and what do they find but a list of SCAA award winners.  That is the SCAA putting their name behind a product, ad revenue or not (and those products may be great, at this point I have no idea one way or the other).

I would hope that the SCAA would aspire to a higher level of trust than that.  It's disappointing.

Thanks for the input everyone.  Feel free to respond if you have anything to add, but I think I'll drop out at this point.
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:15am
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

Check out my review of the Friis Coffee Vault:
http://www.frcndigital.com/coffee/friis.html

As interesting as it is on its own merit, look at the bottom and the fact that it was awarded best of show for new products at Coffeefest (not related to SCAA).
On the other hand, the Offero coffee cup won best new "Coffee or Tea Preparation & Serving Equipment" {EDIT at the SCAA exhibition in 2012 in Portland} over the Behmor Brazen, so there is certainly something at work there. The Brazen won the Peoples' Choice Award in that category.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 3:49pm
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

There is one recommendation I value...J.D.Power and the other is the test of time. To me the most serious test is the consumer and the real
gut wrenching day to day. Anyone can get a new product with a lot of eye candy and wizz bang gadgets to work right for a week.
What will happen down the road is what counts to me. Isnt there a saying standing the test of time? Breville to me isnt worth the gamble. I am not wealthy
enough to have that kind of discretionary income. I am thankful to those at C.G. who tell it like it is and have the knowledge to educate people.
I was one of those five years ago when my Breville espresso nightmare was raging. I humbled myself came here and just did what a few said ( you know who you are)
and Im on the road. Now my daughter and her new husband have that faithful SBDU Classic and shes beating like a drum.
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Posted Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:49am
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

I am the one who actually judged this category at the SCAA.  This particular category was quite varied.  There was a Turkish coffee maker, dripper stands, tea presses and Clever coffee drippers.  
Essentially there are 5-6 items to judge on and you assign points based upon a 1-10 point scale.  Then total the points and the winner is the one with the most points.  The points were very very close on 3 products and I think it was up to the SCAA judging committee to actually pick the winner.

If you want to have your product in this competition you sign up and pay a fee.  Only the winner is placed in the best new product display case.



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Posted Sat Oct 12, 2013, 1:44pm
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Thanks Bill, good info.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 12, 2013, 3:22pm
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

So Bill what you're saying is that all the speculative, cynical crap about advertising was just that... crap.

I thought so, but nice to have it confirmed by someone with actual knowledge.

BDL

PS.  JD Power doesn't do evaluations.  It polls owners.
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JuanR
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Posted Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:54am
Subject: Re: Breville and the SCAA
 

billc Said:

I am the one who actually judged this category at the SCAA.  This particular category was quite varied.  There was a Turkish coffee maker, dripper stands, tea presses and Clever coffee drippers.  
Essentially there are 5-6 items to judge on and you assign points based upon a 1-10 point scale.  Then total the points and the winner is the one with the most points.  The points were very very close on 3 products and I think it was up to the SCAA judging committee to actually pick the winner.

If you want to have your product in this competition you sign up and pay a fee.  Only the winner is placed in the best new product display case.



BillC

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Bill, thanks for the inside perspective.  That does put to rest some of the comments on here, I would think.
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Posted Mon Oct 14, 2013, 6:02pm
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In my opinion, some great espresso machines could not get nomination because a association likes SCAA may just put attention to the big brands in coffee maker field~
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