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ZeroOne
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 5:45pm
Subject: Identify this machine... and advice
 

Hi folks, nice community you've got here, please to meet you all!

So, I'm shopping around for a used commercial espresso machine. I must have made a thousand lates before as a barista (some time ago admittedly) but never payed much attention to the machine itself. Now we're opening our first cafe (w00t!) so it's time I take a more educated aproach to the hardware itself.

I inquired about this machine on kijiji sold by a coffee shop in my area. It's described as a Nuova Simonelli Rancilio... so first thing that come up when I start researching it of course is that those are 2 altogether separate brands, not brand/model. As you'll see in the pics, it's clearly a Rancilio, but I cant figure out the model to look it up and see if it's a good buy. Can you identify it by the pictures?
I know it's a 2004 model, single boiler. At first I thought it might be a Silvia... but then those are much cheaper than the 2000$ they are asking for it, so either that's not it, or someone is trying to pull a fast one on me. This seems pretty darn steep for a single unit 10 y/o machine (suppoosed to be in excellent condition tho, with yearly maintenance)... but then I'd need to know the model to figure that out for sure. Any help greatly appreciated.

Picture attached, larger res (tho upside down...) + a couple more visible on the kijiji post itself here

Many thanks!

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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 5:54pm
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That's a Rancilio S27. $2,000 is nuts for a 2004.

Edit: Corrected model number.
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ZeroOne
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:21pm
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Thank you! That's very helpful!

... unfortunately.. I cant seem to find anything about this machine! o_o Few vague mentions here and there of it being a good machine, but no specs, reviews or comparative prices come up anywhere.

So since you are at this moment the only resources available on the internet (trying to make you feel special here), please forgive me for putting you to the question some more. Any idea on how much it would have sold for originally, and what would be a fair price for a 2004 model in good condition?

Thanks again!
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 7:06pm
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Sorry, the model is 27, not 28.

There is a long thread dedicated to the S2x machines at "The Rancilio S20 Series Thread (S24, S26, S27)" and you'll find plenty of posts both here and homebarista if you search for the correct model number.

I think the general consensus is that the S2x is a good machine. Parts are still available for it. And it's pretty easy to work on.

If I was in the market for a S27, I wouldn't want to pay more than $1,000. And even then, I'd expect the machine to have been serviced or refurbished recently.
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 2:41am
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Then again, guys, they're in Halifax. I don't know if the market for used machines is as competitive in Nova Scotia as it is in say, Vancouver. So our friend in the Maritimes may be stuck paying a premium over what used equipment is really worth. Still, that is excessive and I'd try to talk them down a little.
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 8:11am
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No kidding. I just checked the Halifax Craigslist site. And it has exactly as many espresso machines listed as it has dog sleds for sale :)
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 9:06am
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Yeah, looks like it's just the kind of machine I need, I'll try to haggle them down a few hundred bucks.
Thank you again for your input, very helpful!
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 10:19am
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...as for dogsleds, we mostly just ride wolfs, bareback's the way to go!
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Posted Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:00pm
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Got the machine, ended up paying 1200$ for it which, in this market, I'm pretty darn happy with. Thanks again!
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